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BonelessCat

02/18/14 12:41 PM

#81348 RE: BRIG_88 #81347

That's because you clearly have not read any of the preclinical work. If you did, you would understand why it will be an effective therapy against severe influenza in critical care, intensive care and for immune compromised patients. Further, if you dug only a luittle deeper you would understand that it targets viruses and destroys them without the use of any other drug and independent of the immune system. Even more important, the base molecule is PEG, a very commonly used buffer for highly toxic drugs.

This Flucide…i'm no doctor or scientist but my bullshit radar went up immediately when i see a name put to something early stage like this….currently flu vaccines are a one off inoculation for a specific strain of flu virus….i don't see Flucide ever becoming a panacea for all strains of flu viruses…i just don't see it….i also find it disturbing the CEO has time to email individual shareholders and discuss message boards?….has anyone gotten communication from him in this regard?…if so this is very bush league imo.

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DaysOnTheBeach

02/18/14 12:42 PM

#81349 RE: BRIG_88 #81347

And that's why you'll miss out when this company explodes to the upside with the first true treatment for viral illness.

best to all
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Tri It

02/18/14 12:46 PM

#81351 RE: BRIG_88 #81347

Brig88, this post just revealed a lack of understanding into this company, its formulations and what they are doing. As for communication strategy from the CEO, you cannot have it both ways. I would rather have a CEO over communicate than one who keeps too much in the dark. When you have a moment review the simple science of flu vaccines verse what Nanoviricides is involved. I'm not trying to convince you either way but I think you maybe misinformed. Best regards.
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Magnus1

02/18/14 12:47 PM

#81352 RE: BRIG_88 #81347

So why the commentary if you don't understand the science and are not a doctor? That's what the company is, it's new science. There is plenty of information out there on the science if you're confused.
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MinnieM

02/18/14 1:11 PM

#81367 RE: BRIG_88 #81347

brig... I have a funny hobby that turns out to be related to this topic. I fold proteins as a volunteer for a major university. I've thrown the concept out to a few of my fellow folders, the ones that are more deeper into the biology and chemistry than I am. They can see it work in theory. But, what percentage of the virus is attached to nanoviricides vs host cell? The pre clinicals look good and we're all quite hopeful it ends up working in humans as it does in animals.

And, if the company has a source for the various receptor ligands needed for different diseases this would be amazing.

Can anyone thats been here awhile expand on this issue?

Trials should go quickly with the flu once started. My understanding is the next step we are waiting for is tox studies.

I have to go and hope to see someone expand on this issue sometime later once I'm back.

Btw, the CEO communication style doesn't bother me. I much prefer them too open over too silent.





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This Flucide…i'm no doctor or scientist but my bullshit radar went up immediately when i see a name put to something early stage like this….currently flu vaccines are a one off inoculation for a specific strain of flu virus….i don't see Flucide ever becoming a panacea for all strains of flu viruses…i just don't see it….i also find it disturbing the CEO has time to email individual shareholders and discuss message boards?….has anyone gotten communication from him in this regard?…if so this is very bush league imo.


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ZincFinger

02/18/14 1:20 PM

#81380 RE: BRIG_88 #81347

The reason you don't see it is not because it isn't there, but apparently because you either 1) haven't done enough DD to see why it is there or 2) need it better explained in terms you can understand so you can see it.

Nanoviricides work by "Trapping virus" by presenting on their surface exact copies (of critical portions) of the receptors that viruses MUST use to infect cells. Viruses cannot enter a cell unless they use certain receptors and unless they can enter a cell, they cannot reproduce and infect.

Many viruses use the same receptors. THis is particularly true of influenza A viruses that ALL use the same two receptors: Neuraminidase (the "N" in HXNX) and Hemagglutinin (the "H" in HXNX). The viral proteins (keys) that attach to the receptors (locks) may change but the locks are always the same.

That's why no matter what version of influenza A virus it is, the exact same FluCide would work for it. The virus MUST attach to the receptor or it cannot infect. But if it attaches to the H or N receptors then it will attach to and be trapped by Flucide.

Bottom line: just because you can't see something (especially at first glance) does not mean it's not there. If others say they can it's a good idea to talk to them rather than discounting it out of hand.
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leifsmith

02/18/14 1:26 PM

#81384 RE: BRIG_88 #81347

Why do you think there's any relation between FluCide and any vaccine?