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Ray Comfort's Hysterical 2006 Banana Argument Demonstrates What Creationists Mean By 'Proof'


Ray Comfort and a banana
[ http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Banana_argument ]



Posted: 02/24/2014 11:44 am EST Updated: 02/24/2014 11:59 am EST

Ever wondered why bananas exist?

Ray Comfort [ https://www.livingwaters.com/biography/ray-comfort ; http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Comfort ], a Christian creationist and televangelist, uses a banana to slap evolution in the face in an excerpt from his Way of The Master [ http://www.wayofthemaster.com/index.shtml ] television show co-hosted by former child star Kirk Cameron [ http://www.wayofthemaster.com/about_kirk.shtml ; http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kirk_Cameron ]. The clip, posted in 2006, demonstrates why the world needs better science education, which was one of the goals behind the recent creationism debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye [ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/04/bill-nye-debate-ken-ham-creationism-livestream-live-updates_n_4717896.html (that debate and related {linked) in the post to which this is a reply and preceding)].

Comfort offers up the 'ironclad argument' that bananas are proof of God's intelligent design [ http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Banana_argument ] of the natural world because "the banana and the hand are perfectly made, one for the other."

"Behold, the atheists' nightmare!" declares Comfort, before detailing the many user-friendly features of bananas, which include its "non-slip surface," "tab at the top" for easy opening, and convenient shape which is "even curved toward the face to make the whole process so much easier."

Watch it for yourself here [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq7LXn4KSrM (above, as embedded)].

In fact, the banana as we know it is the result of careful artificial selection by humans [ http://cwh.ucsc.edu/bananas/Site/Early%20History%20of%20the%20Banana.html ] over the course of many years. The wild banana is small, seed-filled, and unpalatable. The banana came about through human manipulation of evolutionary mechanisms.

In response [ http://theskepticalsamurai.wordpress.com/category/kirk-cameron/ ], Comfort said in a video that has now been made private that he "was not aware that the common banana had been so modified through hybridization."

Copyright © 2014 TheHuffingtonPost.com, Inc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/24/ray-comforts-banana-argument_n_4847082.html [with comments]


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Atheist's Nightmare - God's Magic Banana Factory


Uploaded on Feb 15, 2007 by nickGis0001 [ http://www.youtube.com/user/nickGis0001 ]

Nick Gisburne's classic analysis of Ray Comfort's use of a banana to prove the existence of God.

Impossible as it may be to believe, this is even funnier than the original.

http://www.gisburne.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0n0TK_dx-Y [with comments]


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RRS vs. Kirk Cameron / Ray Comfort Nightline FULL


Uploaded on Oct 24, 2011 by ChristopherHitchslap [ http://www.youtube.com/user/ChristopherHitchslap?feature=watch ]

Does God Exist? The Nightline Face-Off - May 2007

I have been informed that parts of this debate have been cut out. I didn't intend to cut this debate or edit Jeane's time down. So here is a link to the longest version I could find.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBiLafg-f_s [no longer available]
The ABC news site for this debate:
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3148940
Video from ABC (only the first 6:50)
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/full-face-off-god-exist-3156022

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJ6ece-rII [with comments] [also at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1vUwWaRZQI (with comments)]


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2009 Golden Crocoduck Award Winner


Uploaded on Oct 28, 2009 by Potholer54debunks [ http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks ]

Here it is folks! The winner of the 2009 coveted Golden Crocoduck, awarded for the biggest breach of the Ninth Commandment in pursuit of the Creationist cause. Er... that's the one that orders you not to tell fibs. My thanks to BeforetheNoose for setting up the voting page.

(Music: Amadeus by Falco)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAXDUofIAzM [with comments]


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The Creationists' Nightmare


Uploaded on May 15, 2011 by AuntieDiluvian [ http://www.youtube.com/user/AuntieDiluvian ]

Monotremes seem to have branched off from placental and marsupial mammals way back on the tree of life, and possess some reptilian and avian attributes that no other mammals have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzyupjTy4Y [with (over 12,000) comments] [at/see (linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=96759860 and http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=97287075 and preceding and following]


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Origin of Stupidity


Uploaded on Sep 19, 2009 by Cristina Rad [ http://www.youtube.com/user/ZOMGitsCriss ]

Kirk Cameron (sssnake!) and Ray "the banana guy" Comfort video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN9zpf5cT0M [now private]

Ray's edition of The Origin of Species complete with his 50 page "introduction" :
http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf

So gross *pukes*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmHN3JtyUXg [with (over 23,000) comments]


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Golden Crocoduck awards 2010


Uploaded on Oct 27, 2010 by Potholer54debunks [ http://www.youtube.com/user/Potholer54debunks ]

This is the awards video for the coveted Golden Crocoduck 2010. The award is given every year on the feast day of St Jude Thaddeus (Patron Saint of Lost Causes), October 28, for the biggest breach of the Ninth Commandment in the pursuit of the creationist cause. Past winners: Kent Hovind 2008, Ray Comfort 2009.

(Music: "Heaven" by Talking Heads)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UyQs8Q6fuQ [with comments]


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Crystal is 'oldest scrap of Earth crust'


Zircons are tough pieces of old rock incorporated into newer material

A tiny 4.4-billion-year-old crystal has been confirmed as the oldest fragment of Earth's crust.

24 February 2014 Last updated at 07:36 ET

The zircon was found in sandstone in the Jack Hills region of Western Australia.

Scientists dated the crystal by studying its uranium and lead atoms. The former decays into the latter very slowly over time and can be used like a clock.

The finding has been reported in the journal Nature Geoscience [ http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo2075.html ].

Its implication is that Earth had formed a solid crust much sooner after its formation 4.6 billion years ago than was previously thought, and very quickly following the great collision with a Mars-sized body that is thought to have produced the Moon just a few tens of millions of years after that. Before this time, Earth would have been a seething ball of molten magma.

But knowledge that its surface hardened so early raises the tantalising prospect that our world became ready to host life very early in its history.

"This confirms our view of how the Earth cooled and became habitable," said lead author Prof John Valley, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, US.

"We have no evidence that life existed then. We have no evidence that it didn't. But there is no reason why life could not have existed on Earth 4.3 billion years ago," he told the Reuters news agency.

Plate tectonics and weathering have ensured that very little of the Earth's early surface remains to be studied.

Some rock formations that are upwards of 3.5 billion years old persist in select places such as Canada, but the vast majority of Earth's surface rock is modern, less than a few hundred million years old.

The zircons found at Jack Hills are tough pieces of old rock that have been incorporated into the newer, reworked material.

But, barely visible to the naked eye, they still retain insights on the conditions under which they originally solidified.

Previous research had indicated the Jack Hills zircon in Prof Valley's publication to be very ancient, but scientists had concerns that some of its lead atoms might have been lost or even migrated inside the crystal over time.

This would have given the impression the zircon was older than it really is.

However, using two sensitive analytical techniques, Prof Valley and colleagues were able to show the zircon's internal uranium-lead clock was showing a true age.

In doing so, their study suggests strongly a continental crust was present on Earth about 100 million years after the planet formed. And by implication, it tells us that if temperatures were low enough, it could have perhaps even sustained liquid water at its surface.

Related Stories

Parts of ancient continent found 24 FEBRUARY 2013, SCIENCE & ENVIRONMENT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21551149

Scratching the surface of the Moon 08 DECEMBER 2012, SCIENCE & ENVIRONMENT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20647441

Team finds Earth's 'oldest rocks' 26 SEPTEMBER 2008, SCI/TECH
http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7639024.stm


BBC © 2014

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26324968


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Winner of the 2012 coveted Golden Crocoduck!


Published on Oct 27, 2012 by potholer54 [ http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 ]

'Nuff said. This video tallies all the votes and gives you the winner of your 2012 coveted Golden Crocoduck.
For those who are bound to comment, the "attack" scene was actually a playful prank from earlier in the interview that I added on ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AkAcNyvV4M ). There was no 'viscious attack' and the injured party was (presumably) fully able to perform his duties.

Normally I would not need to point this out, because the comments were clearly meant to be humorous and the "technical difficulties" screen added on. But someone is bound to chirp "You rail against deliberately distorted videos and yet you're doing the same thing." But there is an obvious difference between videos that are edited for humour and those that are edited for deception.

Music: "Que te vaya mal" by Kany Garcia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC3JgcgHqtw [with comments]


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Does God Have a Future? NightLine DEBATE FULL


Uploaded on Oct 16, 2011 by ChristopherHitchslap [ http://www.youtube.com/user/ChristopherHitchslap ]

'Nightline' 'Face-Off': Does God Have a Future? - March 2010
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/FaceOff/nightline-face-off-god-future/story?id=10170505

Try to imagine this debate without Sam Harris being there to correct Deepak. It would have seemed like Deepak was making good points. Thank you SAM HARRIS!

Does God have a future? "Nightline" tackles this and other delicate questions related to faith and spirituality in a "Face-Off" to air Tuesday, March 23.

Deepak Chopra, a physician and best-selling author of "How to Know God," and prominent scholar, philosopher and writer Jean Houston, will face-off against Michael Shermer, founding publisher of "Skeptic" magazine, and Sam Harris, author of "The End of Faith."

The panelists will debate the tension between God and science. Is there scientific proof that God exists or has science made it so that God is no longer relevant?

Chopra and Houston contend that the universe is proof that intelligence is at the heart of creation and that a person needs to look beyond what can be seen and touched, while Shermer and Harris argue science and biology can explain what is happening to people when they pray, meditate and believe in God and that evolution can explain why our beliefs developed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi2IC6e5DUY [with (over 5,000) comments]


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Epic creationist fails of our time -- #1


Uploaded on Jun 28, 2011 by potholer54 [ http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 ]

Another nominee for the coveted Golden Crocoduck braves the waters of science with the leaky boat of creationist ignorance.

Note 1: In the video I show the Earth as it is today, and the location of the fossil Troodon and Oviraptor eggs in Montana and Mongolia. I described these as "opposite sides of the world." As a couple of viewers pointed out, the configuration of the continents was different in the cretaceous. However, the places where the different eggs were found are still what could be described as "opposite sides of the world." According to my "Atlas of Evolution", only a few degrees off 180 degrees, in fact. I wanted to use a globe representing the cretaceous, but couldn't find one.

SOURCES:

0:01 Video "Creation in the 21st Century - Nest Full of Eggs 1 of 3"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMQFNa_rMO0 [no longer available]

3:46 http://ianjuby.org/tour15.html

4:08 Barnhart Creation Research society
http://creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/41/41_2/2004v41n2p89.pdf

4:14 "Dinosaur eggs and babies" by Kenneth Carpenter
Chapter three: "Dinosaur nesting patterns"
J. Moratalla and J. Powell
http://books.google.com.au/books?hl=en&lr=&id=9BPIRx-OpRMC&oi=fnd&pg=PA37&dq=Moratalla+Powell&ots=CcyMoHFiNO&sig=13KB6MI4uHDfkm4H4p6v2nvveNU#v=onepage&q=Moratalla%20Powell&f=false

4:17 "Ecological and behavioral implications derived from a dinosaur nesting site"
J. Horner, S. Czerkas, E. Olson, Dinosaurs past and present volume II pp. 50-63.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzoI0_IBpS4 [with comments]


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Epic Creationist Fails of Our Time -- #2


Uploaded on Jul 30, 2011 by potholer54 [ http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 ]

Can anyone really be this stupid and yet hold a medical degree? Yes they can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9w26JXXpWU [with comments]


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Epic creationist fails of our time #3


Uploaded on Aug 28, 2011 by potholer54 [ http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 ]

Golden Crocoduck nominee Louis Giglio getting excited.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw2RPeujDV0 [with comments]


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Golden Crocoduck 2013 nominee -- Louis Giglio


Published on Aug 23, 2013 by potholer54 [ http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 ]

This is the last of this year's nominees for the coveted Golden Crocoduck. Details on how to vote will be released in September.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOr2rEUP5b4 [with comments]


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2013 coveted Golden Crocoduck winner!


Published on Oct 28, 2013 by potholer54 [ http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 ]

St. Jude Thaddeus Day, dedicated to the patron saint of lost causes, is upon us once again, and that means it's Golden Crocoduck time. No, don't expect me to tell you who won in the video description, are you nuts??

[Music: A-chi-li-pu by Ragga Pu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9n63XxjWr8 [with comments]


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