All riht so is this cert thing real or not?
Well, they are real certs as in paper.
All you need for "real" is: The CEO avoids getting carted off to jail for Fed charges of attempted bond fraud. A 10K filing which could easily end up as a self hanging on the bond fraud. Avoid a SEC suspension for multiple violations causing the stock to go grey. If it were to go grey, no broker will ever accept the Certs. Where a SEC suspension is extremely likely to occur if DeRoos tries to dump his Octoberfest shares previously at the starting line. Wonder why DeRoos is trying to pump the stock? If a shareholder manages to get through all of this with a Certificate some brave (non discount) broker is willing to accept, resulting in free trading shares, then the final step is to find anyone willing to buy the shares. And if the shares sold doesn't clear DTCC, then your sale is suddenly marked Short.
So, it's a little more complicated than a 10K gets filed, the company lawyer opinions the 100K Cert shares are unrestricted, brokers trip over each other to accept the Certs for deposit, and the first ones out of the starting gate wins big in the lotto sale, due to pent up demand at some penny dream price. But that is the dream which has been propagated by a few on this forum. If you haven't been reading them, you might want to review the posts of Janice Shell on the stock problems DeRoos has created for his shareholders. As a stockholder, there's not much you can do about the present adverse circumstances, other than wait for the final act.
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