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11/23/13 8:54 AM

#91196 RE: Chugit #91191

Go PVEC.... this post might get wordy - if anything in this post is confusing, point it out cause my mind works much faster than my fingers.

The MOASS only comes into play if their is a short in PVEC. If there is a significant position break, then it's important retailers don't sell into the panic sell offs and that 'longs' accumulate as many shares as possible during the dips.

Now I am going to talk about why this might not be a short and why it might not be dilution, but rather principal traders, market maker's, making $$$

I sort of spoke about a few weeks or months ago about how a trader can go long or short on his/her trading pad without ever executing stock. If the trader gives out a buy report at .0021 for 100k without ever owning the stock, the trader just went short 100k at .0021 and will most likely bring the stock down (dip) to a lower level, .0015 x .0017, scaring a retailer to sell 100k at the bid of .0015. By giving out a 100k sell report, the trader just went long 100k at .0015. The net result is the trader made .0006 on 100k without ever actually owning the stock.

Now think of all the times a stock gets to a new HOD and the stock just churns. There is only one MM on the ask and the stock never manages to break through. It doesn't always mean dilution. It can also mean the trader where most of the orders are routed through, NITE, ETRF, etc..., sees all of the 'limit display' orders for a stock. IF that trader sees those limit buy orders start to fade, he is going to start to drop the stock like clockwork. He could short 10's of millions of shares and then drop the inside market, widening the spread, looking to take money away from retail traders cause he can.

Understand, this is a total disregard for the float or o/s. If the buy orders are there and keep coming in, and limited sell orders, the trader will let the stock run no matter the o/s. This is how momo groups can make a heavily diluted stock run. Now this holds true as soon as the momo group starts putting in their sell orders, the stock will peak and churn and then the rest of us get burned.

We are never talking about big dollar amounts in pinksheet or otcbb stocks. Understand, from an operations standpoint, if a trader bought 10,000 IBM over $200 but meant to sell and now the stock moved against him 15 points, and the BSR (buy sell reversal) order came to operations to cover the position, we cover it at the market and don't care how much the trader made or lost. We swept the profit or loss into an error suspense account. Understand, that initial order was $2million that the trader was able to execute with the firms money and then operations would cover it again. This was just one order out of hundred of trades for that stock and just one stock out of hundreds of publicly traded securities.

Firms treat pinksheet stocks with a grain of salt and the traders have unlimited means of destroying the stocks. Now realize there are usually 8 - 10 mms on any given day in an active penny stock stock. $500k trade volume is usually a big, big volume day. Now lets think about the one order in IBM above for $2 million. DO you guys understand where I am going with this. Unless the company has legit news, verifiable profits, an actual stock buy back, penny stocks are stuck with ups and downs.... and currently PVEC has lost many believers because of the CEO's poor communication skills. We should have been trading toward a penny, but because the CEO said a photo would be uploaded on Nov 20th, Financials on Nov 15th, 2 PRs this past week, a symbol change without any update to shareholders, and some other 'choice' actions have left us stock close to the trips when in fact we could have been 10x higher.

I want to make it clear I am not advising anyone to buy, sell or hold... I am giving a possible scenario that could very well be playing out.