If the $180 million number was in fact a reference to the Amarant deal that was lost in translation, then it is reasonable to assume that in 37 years of mining, JJ hasn't pulled a dime out of the ground. I guess it's par for the course, in 24 years of "mining", MDMN hasn't pulled a dime out either. If he had made any money in his 37 years of mining, I'm sure the $180 million number would have been much higher. It also points out that JJ was willing to use a yet unconsummated deal with a shady partner as a way to prove to the Discovery Channel that he was a "player" in the Chilean mining industry. I find that disingenuous at best and outright fraud at worst.