Babbs, on RVGD: The SEC charges were against the funders, Steve Carnes and Larry P., not the past CEO, who sold off all the assets of the company and pretty much disappeared. In the last year, the Nevada corp. went into arrears on filings and fees and the new owner, a Robert L. Stevens of Denver, picked up the shell. (I thought he might have purchased from previous CEO (Peter Collorafi), but hear Stevens picked it up by just paying the back fees and reinstating. So, with a massive R/S, Stevens was able apparently able to have a clean shell to work with. Lord only knows what pos start-up he will put into it next. gltu