Garyst, always remember it is a SCAM to enrich insiders and the pump to dumpers... via talking money away from others...
that is the only way it works ... they win and lots of people LOSE ... no other way it is possible ... they basically are out to steal money from people via total B.S.
APS is the worst of the worst... hiding off shore ... the SEC does not care or can't do much ... same deal ... total SCAM ...