That's to bad you never met or even talked with Kramer he was a very smart guy.Losing it in the end.I don't think so,more stories told to you by someone that knew someone that knew Kramer;Kramer knew,that there were people out there trying to get his secret,a secret that he told to only a few people.Those few people told their friends and so on.The scam was set in motion.Anyway;I'm not saying that they didn't pay for it,in fact I would give them the money back,if ordered by the court,but it was illegally transferred.This predates way before 93'That's the bottom line,and news coming with Judge Ellsworth in August.Whisper words of wisdom,let it be,let it be.......