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07/04/13 8:30 AM

#205957 RE: F6 #205952

Wondering if Besir Atalay had ever shown signs of anti-semetism i searched "Besir Atalay never
signs of antisemitism" .. 2nd from the top was .. Antisemitism in Turkey .. hopped to ..

Sources of antisemitism

The main ideological sources of antisemitism in Turkey are Islamism, left-wing anti-Zionism and nationalism. Turkish intellectuals have always been pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel in their stance. Discussions of Middle East conflict in Turkey often turns into an antisemitic propaganda. .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Turkey

not unexpected and probably not much different from many other countries .. a bit farther down ..

However, in 2003 when Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a leader of the Justice and Development Party, become Prime Minister of Turkey, it marked the rapid Islamisation of Turkey together with the strengthening of anti-Israeli rhetoric. After the Israeli operation Cast lead in the Gaza Strip and with the appointment of new Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu in 2009, the same policy has been adapted by the Turkish foreign policy-makers. .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Turkey

is interesting in light of the revolution in Egypt against Islamisation .. or is the Egyptian unrest about democracy? .. well (heh, on tab for awhile and all of a sudden it fits here) Nervana Mahmoud believes It’s the Identity, Stupid .. http://nervana1.org/2013/07/02/its-the-identity-stupid/ .. it's a good one and i was going to post it in full, still may .. obviously there was going be a reaction to Besir Atalay's comment as reported .. yup ..

Turkey Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay's Protest Comments Draw Condemnation
Reuters | Posted: 07/02/2013 9:39 am EDT | Updated: 07/02/2013 1:06 pm EDT

ISTANBUL, July 2 (Reuters) - A Turkish deputy prime minister linked the "Jewish diaspora" to recent anti-government unrest, drawing condemnation from world Jewish leaders on Tuesday and concern among Turkey's Jews the comments could make them targets of popular anger.

Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay's office said his comments, made to reporters in the town of Kirikkale and published on the Cihan news agency website on Monday, were taken out of context.

Turkey was rocked by violent protests last month when a small effort to save Gezi Park in central Istanbul from redevelopment mushroomed into a mass demonstration by tens of thousands of people opposed to what they see as Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's increasingly authoritarian rule.

Erdogan, in power for ten years, and other officials have cited conspiracies involving "foreign circles", an "interest-rate lobby", foreign media and terrorists engineering the protests to undermine Turkey's economy and political clout. Atalay's comments pointed the finger at the 'Jewish diaspora".

"There are those inside and outside the country who are envious about Turkey growing too much," said Atalay, one of four deputy prime ministers.

"They are all uniting. On the one side you have the Jewish diaspora. You have seen the foreign media's attitude over the Gezi Park events, how quickly they bought into it and how quickly and widely they started broadcasting before any assessment was made," he said.

In a written statement to the media on Tuesday, Atalay's office said some of the minister's comments had been taken out of context and had been added to, resulting in articles stating Atalay had said the Jewish diaspora was behind the protests.

"There was no such statement or assessment made by our Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay," the statement said.


"DESPICABLE"

The World Jewish Congress said it was shocked by what it said were "despicable" and "totally baseless slurs".

"Mr. Atalay should have the decency to apologise. His remarks are an insult not only to the Jewish people but also to the many Turkish citizens who took part in the protests and who have real grievances," it said in a written statement.

The Turkish Jewish Community, which represents most of Turkey's estimated 23,000 Jewish faithful, said Atalay's remarks could lead to reprisals against its members in a mostly Muslim country of 76 million.

"We are trying to obtain information about the meaning, the scope and details of Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay's statement about the 'Jewish Diaspora being behind Gezi protests,'" the Turkish Jewish Community and chief rabbinate said in a joint statement on the community's website.

"(Because) Turkish Jewish citizens, as well as other Jewish people living all around the globe, may be affected and pointed (out) as a target of such a generalisation, we wish to express our concerns and share our apprehension and worry of the consequences that such perceptions can cause."

Turkey's Jews, most of whom trace their roots to the 15th century when their ancestors found refuge in the Ottoman Empire from the Spanish Inquisition, have in recent years faced pressure as relations between Israel and Turkey soured.

Ties between the erstwhile military allies hit a low in May 2010 when Israeli commandoes killed nine Turkish activists in storming the Mavi Marmara, a ship in a Turkish-led convoy seeking to break a naval blockade of the Gaza Strip.

Earlier this year, Erdogan called Zionism "a crime against humanity", prompting objections from U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry. President Barack Obama subsequently orchestrated an Israeli apology for the Mavi Marmara raid.

While at least one other member of Erdogan's ruling party has suggested Jewish involvement in the Gezi protest, the remarks by Atalay appeared to be the first such public accusation by a senior member of the ruling AK Party, which traces its roots to a banned Islamist movement.

In a message on Twitter, the AK Party mayor of the Turkish capital Ankara, Melih Gokcek, said on June 16 the Gezi protests were a "a game of the Jewish lobby" and cited a Turkish newspaper report that a Washingon-based think tank linked to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbying group had predicted the protests earlier in the year. (Reporting by Ayla Jean Yackley, Jonathon Burch and Gulsen Solaker; editing by Ralph Boulton) .. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/02/turkey-deputy-prime-minister-protest-comments_n_3533622.html

I don't know, but maybe one reason the Turkish people the Turkish people did not revolt as much against the
Erdogan's Islamisation is that their economy is doing relatively better than Egypt's .. there has been some ..

Muslim Light: What's Behind Turkey's Islamization and the Protests Against It .. two bits ..

Erdogan has been pushing for an end to alcohol, kissing and other hallmarks of secularization, with disastrous results.

Cinar Kiper Jun 5 2013, 1:55 PM ET


An anti-government protester shouts for help to extinguish a burning container in Istanbul's Taksim square June 4, 2013.(Yannis Behrakis/Reuters)

[...]

Many of his opponents, including the Gezi park protesters, warn of the Islamization of Turkey. But as the party of those left behind by the 1923 revolution, it doesn't really need to socially engineer much. The party keeps winning elections in landslides, and its values are already shared by the majority of Turks . If he is trying to gain converts, he's already halfway there, as he so graciously pointed out earlier this week when he reminded the nation how he's keeping his supporters from intervening against the Taksim protests on his behalf. .. more .. http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/06/muslim-light-whats-behind-turkeys-islamization-and-the-protests-against-it/276576/

This one fits here : Turkey: It’s about the Right to be Different (Soysal)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=88677797 .. and following ..

And Turkish Jews? How do they feel about Atalay's comment? .. one on that ..

Turkish Jew Affirms Deputy PM's Remarks Anti-Semitic

Turkey's Jewish community rejects Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay's
claim that Monday's anti-Semitic remarks were “taken out of context.”

By Hana Julian First Publish: 7/3/2013, 9:51 AM


Inside Neve Shalom, Istanbul Synagogue
Israel news photo: HLJ

Turkey's Jewish community has rejected a claim by Deputy Prime Minister Besir Atalay that an anti-Semitic accusation against Jews was “taken out of context.”

Istanbul-based Turkish Jewish journalist Denis Ojalvo told Arutz Sheva in a phone interview Wednesday morning that if Atalay’s remarks were taken out of context, then “in what context were they?”

But Ojalvo, who writes a column for Shalom Gazette, the country’s sole Jewish weekly, said Atalay has never been heard to say anything anti-Semitic in the past. “Until now we never heard such statements from his mouth.”

Nevertheless, “When he says ‘the diaspora’ it is an amorphous’ term,” he said. “That’s a cabal. He thinks it is the Jews who run the media – but it is a general accusation. He was just expressing a stereotype, making an anti-Semitic remark out of general prejudice.

"There is no excuse to say such a thing. This is how the Jewish community feels,” Ojalvo explained .. more again .. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/169546#.UdVnj6z8FdY