Hey Phil,sorry one more reguest,it seems that a poster on RB is saying that there are letters,in the Nv district court,from Iterated Systems Lawyers that says that TMMI doesn't own the VDK line.Phil please see if you can find these letters.I don't believe it because Dr Barnsley and Dr Sloan were Iterated Systems,that was their company and I seriously doubt that they would have lawyers draw up letters,saying TMMI doesn't own the VDK line,seeing how they both work for TMMI.Iterated Systems changed their name to Mediabin in 2001 and was bought by Interwoven in 2003,merged with Autonomy,who was bought by HP in 2011.Thx