Yes i agree about penny stocks and my thoughts are that if there is a contract between two companies the filings should be the same though. I hope you hold your faith and hope they will clear things up and move forward, but it is SAFC that is supposed to be bringing the devise to market and the prototype is due to be finished and the Company should be addressing the shareholders that having been investing for months at alot higher levels IMO. I like Johns post because he seems to know a little about Jacob more so than the rest of us. Suneshine has spent time in Isreal so i enjoy hearing from him also. Safecode being new to the OTC makes it hard to really do alot of back ground on. Hope we can get to the Marketing end soon. SAFC