OK so now you care about what ING says? Or do you just pick and choose to support whichever argument you're peddling?
To quote you:
And, I don't care anything about ING
Just so I'm clear, you want to ignore or discount the recent actions against ING by the feds, the state of NY and FIRMA but do want to take their word that the PFNO bonds are fake?
IMO, it's ING's credibility that has taken a hit. Sid has yet to support monetary transactions though a country that supports terrorists and has threatened the United States. That was ING. Call me a patriot...