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04/16/13 12:38 AM

#253084 RE: fuagf #253059

The truth was evident in the content of the statements, whatever it's origin. It IS at the very least likely a sentiment Jefferson would hold dear. I was aware of the biblical sourcing of the Jefferson quote, which is why I accepted the likelihood of its authenticity. As I said, utimately, the veracity of the quote is unimportant.
It's essence is Jeffersonian in nature.

No such thing a "Sovereign citizen" that something disinformation specialists cook up. I sent you on a mission to provide you with a bit better understanding of the position of an American Sovereign via Lysander Spooner.

Your beliefs have no philosophical leg to stand on if the foundational principles are missing.

You people are reactionaries, revolving around problematic issues without the forethought as their causation. Like dog chasing their tails, never taking into account it's their own shortcoming they chase. You can never solve a problem this way. It sprouts seeds that cause even newer problems, never striking the root.

"A government that can at pleasure accuse, shoot, and hang men, as traitors, for the one general offence of refusing to surrender themselves and their property unreservedly to its arbitrary will, can practice any and all special and particular oppressions it pleases. The result -- and a natural one -- has been that we have had governments, State and national, devoted to nearly every grade and species of crime that governments have ever practised upon their victims; and these crimes have culminated in a war that has cost a million of lives; a war carried on, upon one side, for chattel slavery, and on the other for political slavery; upon neither for liberty, justice, or truth. And these crimes have been committed, and this war waged, by men, and the descendants of men, who, less than a hundred years ago, said that all men were equal, and could owe neither service to individuals, nor allegiance to governments, except with their own consent."
~ Lysander Spooner



You can argue with me all you like. Unfortunately, you don't have history backing you up.

Your ideas are uninspired, shoddy and frankly disproven on the level of human interaction.