Wizetradr, I hear you on the paper trading. Sounds like you have been down some of the same roads as me with regards to searching for that illusive foolproof trading signal. I'm sure that you have come to a similar conclusion as me. In the stock market, there are no certainties, just probabilities. That's about where I'm at for now. I've tries everything from bollinger band squeezes to moving average crossovers. There is no method that is 100% reliable. Which methods have you had the most success with?