RHill. That is the problem--Management or the lack of it. To my best knowledge there has not been ONE share traded in over 4 weeks. I know one of the people there but he has not talked to me in at least 4 weeks. Maybe because the company is or might fold. Can't sell the stocks I have at this PPS so mught just put my folder in the dust drawer and forget about it. I can use it in 2006 for a tax loss. Chucker