Hi Dwain
The Ultimate was placed in the ibox over a year ago to help members of this board who are interested in a bit longer range look at a stock. You still get the confirmations, but have more indicators to satisfy your questions. I created the Quick Hit because there were many, many members who wanted a short term template. I used the 8 period aroon because I have found after studying hundreds of charts that it is most reliable when it comes to pointing out the entry of a stock. Do not concern yourself with the Ultimate. You will also see the Quick Hit template in the ibox also. I would suggest if you needed a better understanding Dwain that you should post two charts in the same preview message and glance critically at both the Ultimate and the Quick Hit templates. The setups of the Magic Box and the others are all off of the aroon 8, which is the Quick Hit.