andy, the last report from JF said that the will be profitable with 18k to 20k subs. As a result of the CC deal, it is very likely they will make it ahead of the previously projected Q1 '06. GZFX has cash as they have raised cash through employee stock options as reported in the filings. By the way, my DD is over 90 days out and I am very confident in this company...check some of my postings....glty