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03/13/13 3:45 PM

#130833 RE: dmbao #130826

Niobium use is small but growing. If CBMM has enough for 100 years and can get it out and process it fast enough if growth double and they need to double production you are down to 50 years double again 25 years etc. As that mine life shortens would you as an owner and end user try and keep supply for ones future or would you limit the supply to insider end users?


Very true but if the demand doubled and then doubled then doubled and doubled CBMMs supply would run out in 2050 and #2 could take over for another 50 years.

Do you really see a demand increase of over 16 times in the next 20 years?

CBMMs supply is enough to support the world use for 500 years.

These processing technologies come from research and that typically comes from Universities so that access to technology isn't likely to be difficult to obtain.


And universities license out their tech to those that fund the tech. Scott cant fund SRSR so I doubt he will be getting any tech from a university. If Scott will figure out how to do it on his own I am sure. There are plenty of ways to refine the ore. If it isnt pure enough for steel use they can sell it to a secondary processor maybe. First they have to figure out how to even get it out of the ground.
1 step at a time. We can worry about refining later. For now we just have to worry about getting money to do anything at all.
Correct me if I am wrong but without SOE or other JV partner SRSR can no longer afford to even drill any more holes without selling shares.
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03/15/13 3:30 AM

#130927 RE: dmbao #130826

LOL!!!

Amazon is out of stock... but it's only $441 on sale, while CRC has it, but it costs $442. Bottom line is that it was published in 1993, so its already pretty significantly out of date, but, the CRC intro probably says all that most people would care to know anyway, while pointing out that the CBMM's "secrets" aren't all THAT secret... if you've got $444 to spend on getting them:

Addresses all aspects of niobium from its properties and applications to refining and consolidation

Uses many diagrams, photographs, flowcharts, graphs, and tables to illustrate key concepts and data

Provides an extensive reference list

Includes a fascinating summary of the long journey niobium travels from its initial removal from the earth's crust to its finished form

Summary
The growth and development witnessed today in modern science, engineering, and technology owes a heavy debt to the rare, refractory, and reactive metals group, of which niobium is a member. Extractive Metallurgy of Niobium presents a vivid account of the metal through its comprehensive discussions of properties and applications, resources and resource processing, chemical processing and compound preparation, metal extraction, and refining and consolidation. Typical flow sheets adopted in some leading niobium-producing countries for the beneficiation of various niobium sources are presented, and various chemical processes for producing pure forms of niobium intermediates such as chloride, fluoride, and oxide are discussed. The book also explains how to liberate the metal from its intermediates and describes the physico-chemical principles involved. It is an excellent reference for chemical metallurgists, hydrometallurgists, extraction and process metallurgists, and minerals processors. It is also valuable to a wide variety of scientists, engineers, technologists, and students interested in the topic.

Table of Contents
Properties and Applications of Niobium: Introduction. Historical: Discovery, Early Developments, Recent Trends. Properties: Physical Properties, Chemical Properties, Metallurgical Properties. Applications: Niobium in Steels, Cast Irons, Niobium in Superalloys, Niobium in Zirconium Alloys, Niobium in Superconducting Alloys, Niobium in Chemical Process Industry, Niobium Compounds, Miscellaneous. Summary. Sources and Their Treatment Procedures: Introduction. Crustal Abundance. Minerals: General, Geochemistry, Niobium Mineralization. Sources and Reserves: General, Types of Sources, Reserves, Major Deposits. Ore Extraction: General, Mining, Comminution, Concentration. Major Production Practices: Pyrochlore, Niobium with Other Minerals. Summary. Chemical Processing: Introduction. Primary and Secondary Sources: General, Theoretical and Practical Aspects of Source Opening, Niobium and Tantalum Separation Processes, Primary Sources Processing, Secondary Sources Processing. Pollution Aspects in Chemical Processing. Compounds: General, Oxides, Chlorides and Fluorides, Carbides, Hydrides, Nitrides, Borides, Silicides. Summary. Reduction Processes: Introduction. Oxide Reduction Processes: General, Metallothermics, Carbothermics. Chloride Reduction Processes: General, Active Metal Reduction, Non Metal Reduction, Disproportionation and Decomposition. Fluoride Reduction Processes: General, Sodiothermic Process. Electrolytic Reduction Processes. Nitride Decomposition Process: General, Process Description. Miscellaneous Processes: Ferroniobium, Niobium Alloys, Niobium Carbide. Summary. Purification and Consolidation: Introduction: General, Impurities in Niobium. Purification Techniques: Classification of Purification Techniques, Pyrovacuum Treatment, Electrorefining, Iodide Refining, Zone Refining, Electrotransport, Chemical Gettering. Consolidation: Vacuum Sintering, Vacuum Arc Melting, Electron Beam Melting. Summary. Autobiography: Introduction. Chemistry. Mineralogy and Geology. Occurrences. Front End Processes. Back End Processes. Uses and Markets. Conclusion.