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[wbmw]

What will ARMv8 do with "good enough" performance that AMD's Bobcat with 64-bit "good enough" performance couldn't do?

Are you for real? Haven't you heard Android is going 64bit OS? Or iOS will run 64bit next year?

Either you weren't paying attention to the context of the conversation, or you have high hopes for Android and iOS as being better for running PC content than Windows.

and that means ARM v8 will likely outship Intel core chips five to one over the next five years, at a fifth of the price.

Yeah, in phones, genius. The point I was responding to was the idea that ARMv8 would make inroads into the PC space. Intel will outship ARM in PCs by probably 100 to 1. Windows RT wasn't doing too well, last time I checked.

that's what "good enough" performance can do.

"Good enough" is kind of subjective. What's good enough for my phone isn't necessarily "good enough" for my PC. Or do you debate that point?

[Saturn V]

Intel will also compete in the "good enough" marketplace with the Atom chips on Android. A few years ago we went thru the same argument when Intel took on AMD with the Atom and Netbooks. Android tablets will be the new Netbooks. Intel was able to compete pretty effectively in that space. Intel will be competing at all price points and performance levels.

As others have pointed out more and more newer applications demand greater CPU horse power. That has been the history of computing for the last 60 years. Until a few years ago Intel had ceded the low end to AMD, and the AMD faithful would crow that what AMD had was "good enough" and Intel would be toast since no one would need the extra performance of Intel chips. Now your argument is the same, except ARM has been substituted for AMD. The scenario of good enough computing taking over has still not materialized.

[chipguy]

ARM v8 will likely outship Intel core chips five to one over the next five years

All ARM ISA versions/uarchs/OEM designs combined, probably.

at a fifth of the price

LOL, not a chance.

Keep in mind smart phones are the "low volume" flagship application
for ARM processors - the "Xeons" of the ARM world if you will. The
bulk of the units are in embedded control like sub $1 microcontrollers.
These will likely never go 64 bit.

ARM likes to talk sexy like smart phones and servers but it mainly
walks washing machines, microwave ovens, disk controllers etc.
You know what ARM makes on those things, about a penny or two
each. Not quite Intel Xeon territory is it skippy?