i was at that meeting and i did see an old man on stage well wasnt a stage it was on one floor but in front of all the people he did say his stock pick for marketing up and coming was in fact wtwo or w2 energy he did provide his own dd to the meeting and its was all the dd we have here on this board, after that they went into other stocks and other marketing strategys so then i left and came back to the o.c.