I used to know a guy who was always blameing his employer for size of his paycheck. He just did not see that all he had to do was find employment that would give him a higher pay check. I have not said that I know what Sney are doing and if you dont like the discussion and opinions put forward by me and ant and others then I sugest you do not join in. Better still put us on ignore PLEASE. NOBODY SAID THEY ARE BANKA DRILLING. NOBODY SAID THEY ARE DOING LAND OPS. IT WAS A DISCUSSION PERIOD. Dredgemaster