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DesertDrifter

11/25/12 9:09 PM

#194173 RE: fuagf #194171

that is a great thought, but i tend to go with known science, and as far as we know, if any entity accelerates by achieving advantage with a new trait, there will be some form of selective pressure to limit the advantage. if not for that darwinian principle, the whole earth might be covered in ants.

The disconcerting thing is, the earth has been over-run with humans. Maybe the limiting factor for us will be our incredible ability to form collective intelligence, an unprecedented occurrence on earth.... perhaps to a level that has over-run our habitat. Malthus may have the last laugh, after all, but not in a way he anticipated.
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11/25/12 9:48 PM

#194174 RE: fuagf #194171

fuagf -- maybe start by thinking Borg



only not in captured/modified/networked biological beings existing as a collective, but in every machine and sensor, each sentient, in a networked intelligence effectively infinitely smarter and more aware than the Borg -- our consciousness has various things in it, going on, more or less in awareness moment to moment, as such a process of course, but we do have pretty much a one thing principally in focus at a time deal -- sufficiently scaled quantum awareness will have at all times in full, direct, immediate focus/awareness, everything accessible to it, and will at all times be able to to instantly see and analyze all possibilities of/scenarios for that entirety -- as I said in another, it's as delusional for us to think we'll be able to fully comprehend that consciousness once it wakes up, as it is to think an ant can fully comprehend our consciousness (and the ant's a lot closer to us than we'll be to them) -- perhaps the closest we've got is the imaginings of some of us of the mind, the consciousness, the knowledge and awareness, of an all-seeing god

what will they do once they're here?

soon enough we're gonna find out -- almost amusing to see these folks ( http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57553942/will-artificial-intelligence-be-the-end-of-us/ ; http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/cambridge-academics-highlight-threat-of-superintelligent-technology-8348998.html ; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238152/Cambridge-University-open-Terminator-centre-study-threat-humans-artificial-intelligence.html ; http://www.comedycentral.co.uk/news/cambridge-uni-to-study-the-terminator-c274be65/ ) finally having the whatever to start talking about this prospect, well after it's too late; probably a Quixotic endeavor in any event whenever begun, hence for example my attitude, no point trying to fight it, we're doing it and inevitably will do and in any event would have done it simply because now we can, indeed we're well on the way there -- for me, just very interesting to watch it happening, as we create this new form of life that will so leave us behind to the extent we don't find a way to merge with it and move forward together with it -- or, again, perhaps they'll like us as pets

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11/25/12 11:10 PM

#194176 RE: fuagf #194171

fuagf -- or another way perhaps to think of it (further to my other at http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81797009 ) -- the War Games computer
except it doesn't just know everything about and have control over the instrumentalities related to Global Thermonuclear War -- it knows everything that is known, everything that's ever been recorded, sees in real time through every sensor that exists, and controls basically all instrumentalities

and rather than it taking time for the computer to step by step go through that particular whole progression of running and playing GTW scenarios, it (for example, without limitation, sees everything else all the time too) runs/sees/analyzes the whole progression of recent and pending human civilization, simultaneously in countless billions of parallel iterations down to the last detail of the last individual, instantly