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10/06/12 9:24 PM

#124198 RE: passthegravy #124190

What is not black and white would be the word "prolonged" If there is no PR this week there will be a down trend.
If it is prolonged or not is up to Scott.
You are right that 2 weeks from now if news comes out it will pop up but until than do you see anything to promote buying?
I dont.
I see the lack of a PR as a good op to buy lower and no more.

The strong kneed are the same as they have always been. The PPS got to .015 with the strong kneed involved so they will not support the price . IMO Most people you would consider strong kneed have the shares they are going to get and are going to sit on them. No selling or buying pressuer from them.

It is all up to Scott now. Just like every time the PPS here has popped up. It is totally hinged on Scotts follow through. Traders with past experience here will not wait very long for Scott to do it.

I dont think Scott has gained back enough market confidence to collect many new longs yet. That is what he needs
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downsideup

10/07/12 8:27 PM

#124241 RE: passthegravy #124190

Charts are not wholly inanimate, as in relation to our discussion of other objects being wholly ignorant of our animation. They're not animate themselves, rather than being maps that show patterns in the animated behavior of market participants, after the fact...

So, if the behavior reflected is intended to be a lie, or if it is otherwise a function of lies... the patterns in the charts based on the telling of the lie, will tend to reflect that lie, and the chart patterns may themselves be made a lie, too.

If market participants find it useful to knowingly lie about facts and things as basic as fundamentals... not just "company fundamentals" but basics in truth functions ? The charts will tend to reflect the impact of the fact in the lies... rather than the value of facts in fundamentals... when lies dominate the conversation.

Not every disagreement... is an honest disagreement.

So, the truth function is the core issue... in the logic, but also in the analysis of other market participants interest, knowing some may value and respect truth too little.

That makes it telling... to observe argument that has some few flagrantly disputing even basic and obvious truths... as by claiming that inanimate objects are responsible for people's behavior... and not the people whose behavior it is...

There are market functions that may work to correct those sorts of errors... over time...

But, as a free market, by definition, is one in which there is an requirement for the absence of that sort of fundamental fraud ?

The choices made in what we will tolerate in others behavior, matter... and have impact that goes far beyond the limits of "manipulation" we're discussing, in a single stock...

And, that's why shorts have to be banned... if they're not going to be properly limited as in the past... because enabling them ensures the result that the market will be based on fraud.