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SoxFan

02/28/03 1:23 PM

#13457 RE: Mattu #13456

Matt it's one thing to be a racist bigot and be silent about it and quite another, like zigi, who scream it from the roof top whenever he/she/it can as if it's a badge of honor.

My vote is to boot him and his ilk. After a fair trial of course.
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philozarton

02/28/03 5:42 PM

#13469 RE: Mattu #13456

Popsicle Sticks

Remember those? You can buy big boxes- 500 and 1,000 of them in the small or large size at any craft store. Which is a good thing, because at 5:15pm I was running to Hobby Lobby to get some so Will could make a boat for a project that is due, yes, tomorrow. To his credit, he had tried to make it before and it just didn't work. He was near 'bout in tears.....i told him that when I make a cake I use fresh ingredients, that when you play hockey you wear the right equipment, and when you build a boat you need the right materials. After a brief discussion of available material, including a review of previously tried and unsuitable materials, we settled on popsicle pops. Thus, my shopping expedition.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, Ben was sentenced to solitary confinement and David was restricted from tv for a week.

I don't know if I want to build something really exciting,like this ROCKET CAR[/B]; Here is the link if any of you other Jailbirds want to build one too!!! Or a Mouse maze at the bottom of this page. What do you think I should make Matt? You know what they say, Idle hands and then some other thing.
http://collections.ic.gc.ca/science/english/eng/projects/car.html

To understand the concepts behind building a life-size rocket car by building a smaller version with popsicle stick frames and film canister cap wheels. These little rocket cars are equipped with a small CO2 cartridge for an engine and are guided along a fishing line as they reach speeds up to 70 km/h.


For years the need for speed has intrigued humankind. A new record for speed was set on October 15, 1997 when a car travelled faster than the speed of sound for the first time. The rocket powered car Thrust SSC reached 763 miles per hour in Nevada's Black Rock Desert.

This futuristic car needed a sleek aerodynamic body and a scoop-shaped fin to prevent it from leaving the ground. At high speeds, a low pressure zone (fast air) can be created at the top of a car coupled with a high pressure zone (slow air) under the body of a car causing the car to take flight. This phenomenon is better known as Bernoulli's Principle.

Any rocket car trying to break the sound barrier has to be carefully engineered to reduce all friction. Friction is the force opposing the movement of a body by something from the outside environment. In a rocket car, friction can be found within the bearings of its wheels and axle, at the contact point between the tires and the ground, and upon the body of the car caused by air resistance.

Building the Cars

1 wooden shish cabob skewer
4 film canister caps
2 large straws
1/4 bottle of white glue
one 7 x 15 cm piece of paper
1 CO2 cartridge, 19 mm diameter
popsicle sticks


The CO2 cartridge holder: Lay out the strip of paper.
Spread glue on half of the paper. Using the CO2 cartridge, roll the paper into a tube, starting at the end with no glue. Keep the paper tight and make sure it does not stick to the CO2 cartridge.

Place a small bead of glue along the final seam to ensure it is completely sealed. Pinch the paper tight over the rounded end of the CO2 cartridge and glue down the pinched end. Remove the CO2 cartridge.

The wheel assembly: Cut the wooden skewer and one of the straws into halves.
Glue each straw half to 2 separate popsicle sticks and allow to dry.
Using the sharp end of the skewer poke holes in the centre of the four film canister caps.
Push the skewer piece through the hole in one of the film canister caps. Thread the free end of the skewer through one of the glued straws. Put the other film canister cap on the free end of the skewer and you will then have two sets of wheels for your car.
It is important for launching that the centre of the CO2 cartridge be 3 cm from the ground. This is easily done by attaching the paper CO2 cartridge holder to the popsicle stick on the wheel assembly.

The body and the frame: Next you should design a frame of popsicle sticks abiding by the following constraints:
the car must be less than 15 cm wide
the CO2 cartridge must be the piece the farthest to the back of the car
the CO2 cartridge holder must be tightly secured (encased in popsicle sticks)
The final straw must be used as a runner for the guide wire and secured to the underbody of the car as low to the ground as possible

The figure below is an example of a simple frame to build.

Building the launcher

The starter
Materials listed correspond to their number and are found in the figures below.
two 2" x 4", 35 cm long
two 1" angle irons 7 cm long

two 3/4" diameter steel bars 6 cm long

one 1" x 4", 35 cm long

one 3/4" steel bar 12 cm long

two 1" angle irons 15 cm long

one 1" steel bar 6 cm long

one 1" steel bar 9 cm long

one 1" angle iron 28 cm long
two 3/4" bar 38 cm long

two 1" angle irons 7 cm long

one 2" x 4", 35 cm long
two large eyelet screws with bolts
one small spring cut to desired tension
one 1/4" diameter steel bar 38 cm long

two 1/8" diameter steel nail sharpened
two small springs to cover 1/4" of each nail
two small wires for nail cotter pins
twenty-two 3/4" wood screws
two small washers for release mechanism
four 2" wood screws
two small cotter pins

The finish
two wood pieces 1" by 2" cut 90 cm long
two 2" x 4" cut 35 cm long
two 1" x 4" cut 45 cm long
twelve 2" wood screws
200' of 40 pound test fishing line


Put together the launcher as shown in Figure 2 & 3. Parts 7, 8, 9, and 15 are all welded to each other. The angle iron used for part number 9 should strike both nails simultaneously to allow for an equal start in each lane. The eyelet screws are used to attach the fishing line and for fine adjustments in the tension. The spring should be tight to allow the arm to strike the nails at a large enough speed to puncture the CO2 cartridge. Parts 5 and 7 combine to create a starting lever for when the hammer is cocked and the spring is stretched. The steel bars (part 8) are mounted on the back of the starter so that it can be fastened under a door to remain stable. The finish also needs to be weighted down to keep the guide line taut.

Extra Info:
keep some sandpaper handy to sharpen the nails between rounds
the person launching the cars should hold on to the CO2 canister when the launch is taking place to ensure that a large enough hole is punctured
keep the guide line tight to prevent cars from crossing tracks
before launch the straw used for a guide wire will need to be sliced down the middle in order to allow the guide wire to slide in; once the wire is in, tape the straw shut for safety
safety goggles should be worn by the launcher
caution posters should be laid along the track to avoid tripping over the guide wires


Newton's Third Law of Motion explains why the rocket cars move forward. Newton's Third Law says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In this case, the force of the compressed CO2 escaping backwards out of the cartridge exerts an equal force on the cartridge, but in the opposite direction. The car, which is attached to the cartridge, thus moves forward.

You can see the effects of Newton's Third Law all around you. For one thing, it explains the motion of rockets; the hot gas coming down out of the rocket exerts an equal but opposite force on the rocket, propelling it upward. But Newton's Third Law also explains more everyday events. When you lean against a wall, the reason you don't fall over has to do with Newton's Third Law. Your body pushes sideways against the wall. According to Newton's Third Law, the wall pushes back with a force equal and opposite. This force from the wall is what holds you up.

MOUSE MAZE

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Things you will need:
1. Tic Tac Container
2. Popsicle Sticks
3. Scissors
4. White Paint
5. White Paper
6. "Mouse-Colored" Chenille Stem (Pipe Cleaner)
7. Small piece of yellow craft foam
8. Glue

* If you don't have something listed above, try substituting
something close


Directions:
1. Peel the labels off of the Tic Tac container. DO NOT soak them off. (If you do,
there will be a "shadow" left behind.)
*. If you would like to use a pattern, go to step "A" below.
2. Cut the popsicle sticks into small pieces. (These are the walls.)
3. Paint the pieces of popsicle sticks white.
4. Cut the piece of paper to fit the bottom of the Tic Tac container.
5. Glue the sticks onto the paper in a maze shape.
6. Put a drop of glue on the maze, and cut bits of the chenille onto it. This is your mouse.
7. Glue the foam into the end of the maze. (This is the cheese.)
8. Let all of the glue dry, then slide the maze into place, and glue it there.
9. Cut off most of the part of the lid that fits into the container. Glue the lid in place.

To use the pattern:
A. Print out the page here..
B. Cut the round ends off of 10 popsicle sticks.
C. Place the flat ends of the sticks against the top red line.
D. Cut one (1) stick at each line without a number.
E. Cut the number of sticks indicated at the length of lines with a number.
F. Cut the maze to fit the container.
G. Glue the sticks onto the lines.
H. Go to step "6" above.

* Optional "extra" ideas: Make a tail for your mouse, put 2 mice in the maze, or draw
fake tunnels on some of the walls!



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philozarton

02/28/03 10:26 PM

#13473 RE: Mattu #13456

I would like to be out!!!

How did we survive??????

My Mom used to cut chicken, chop eggs and
spread mayo on the same cutting board with
the same knife and no bleach, but we didn't
seem to get food poisoning.

My Mom used to defrost hamburger on the
counter AND I used to eat it raw sometimes
too, but I can't remember getting E-coli.

Almost all of us would have rather gone
swimming in the lake instead of in a
pristine pool (talk about boring).

The term cell phone would have conjured
up a phone in a jail cell, and a pager
was the school PA system.

We all took gym, not PE... and risked
permanent injury with a pair of high top
Ked's (only worn in gym) instead of
having cross-training athletic shoes
with air cushion soles and built in light
reflectors. I can't recall any injuries
but they must have happened because they
tell us how much safer we are now.

Flunking gym was not an option... even for
stupid kids! I guess PE must be much harder
than gym.

Every year, someone taught the whole school
a lesson by running the halls with leather
soles on linoleum tile and hitting the wet spot.

How much better off would we be today if we
only knew we could have sued the school system.

Speaking of school, we all said prayers and the
pledge and staying in detention after school
caught all sorts of negative attention. We must
have had horribly damaged psyches.

I can't understand it. Schools didn't offer 14
year olds an abortion or condoms (we wouldn't
have known what either was anyway) but they did
give us a couple of baby aspirin and cough syrup
if we started getting the sniffles. What an
archaic health system we had then. Remember
school nurses? Ours wore a hat and everything.

I thought that I was supposed to accomplish
something before I was allowed to be proud of
myself.

I just can't recall how bored we were without
computers, PlayStation, Nintendo, X-box or
270 digital cable stations.

I must be repressing that memory as I try to
rationalize through the denial of the dangers
could have befallen us as we trekked off each
day about a mile down the road to some guy's
vacant 20, built forts out of branches and
pieces of plywood, made trails, and fought over
who got to be the Lone Ranger. What was that
property owner thinking, letting us play on that
lot. He should have been locked up for not putting
up a fence around the property, complete with a
self-closing gate and an infrared intruder alarm.

Oh yeah... and where was the Benadryl and
sterilization kit when I got that bee sting? I
could have been killed!

We played king of the hill on piles of gravel
left on vacant construction sites and when we
got hurt, Mom pulled out the 48 cent bottle of
Mercurochrome and then we got our butt spanked.
Now it's a trip to the emergency room, followed
by a 10-day dose of a $49 bottle of antibiotics
and then Mom calls the attorney to sue the
contractor for leaving a horribly vicious pile
of gravel where it was such a threat.

We didn't act up at the neighbor's house either
because if we did, we got our butt spanked
(physical abuse) here too ... and then we got
butt spanked again when we got home.

Mom invited the door to door salesman inside for
coffee, kids choked down the dust from the gravel
driveway while playing with Tonka trucks (remember
why Tonka trucks were made tough... it wasn't so
that they could take the rough Berber in the family
room), and Dad drove a car with leaded gas.

Our music had to be left inside when we went out to
play and I am sure that I nearly exhausted my
Imagination a couple of times when we went on
vacations. I should probably sue the folks now for
the danger they put us in when we all slept in
campgrounds in the family tent.

Summers were spent behind the push lawnmower and
I didn't even know that mowers came with motors
until I was 13 and we got one without an automatic
blade-stop or an auto-drive.

How sick were my parents? Of course my parents
weren't the only psychos. I recall Donny Reynolds
from next door coming over and doing his tricks
on the frontstoop just before he fell off. Little
did his Mom know that she could have owned our house.
Instead she picked him up and swatted him for
being such a goof. It was a neighborhood run amuck.

To top it off, not a single person I knew had ever
been told that they were from a dysfunctional family.
How could we possibly have known that. We needed to
get into group therapy and anger management classes?

We were obviously so duped by so many societal ills,
that we didn't even notice that the entire country
wasn't taking Prozac! How did we survive?




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philozarton

03/01/03 10:47 AM

#13479 RE: Mattu #13456

I'm hoping I don't have to enlist these guys to break me out.

OT: Breaking News: French Surrender!

France Surrenders to Texas High School
By David Burge
CNSNews.com
February 28, 2003

Paris (CNSNews.com) - What began as a six-day chaperoned music tour by a group of suburban Texan teenagers ended in an epic conquest in the pre-dawn hours of Friday morning as French military and government officials offered their unconditional surrender to students of the Aldine, Texas Eisenhower High School Music Department.

Accepting the surrender, Eisenhower High School Band and Choral Director Gary Baumer praised the French for avoiding further bloodshed and vowed an immediate postwar rebuilding effort. "We hope to achieve national recovery by prom," said Baumer. "The seniors have voted for the theme "Springtime in Paris."

In a goodwill gesture, Baumer said the victorious students would soon begin releasing most of the 400,000 French prisoners of war they had captured during the brutal three-day campaign.

"We want the prisoners reunited with their families," said Justin Gonzales, a junior tenor in the Eisenhower Glee Chorus. "Besides, you can't even begin to imagine the smell."

Baumer also granted former government officials and their families safe passage out of the country. Former President Jacques Chirac was last seen boarding his private Airbus jet at Orly Airport, as the Eisenhower Jazz Ensemble taunted him with an off-key rendition of "Na Na Na Na (Hey Hey) Goodbye."

Chirac's plane was reportedly intercepted and escorted away by Royal Air Force fighter jets as it attempted to enter British air space. According to sources familiar with Britain's MI2 intelligence service, Chirac has accepted exile in Iraq.

Details of the Franco-American conflict were still emerging Friday morning, but British and American intelligence sources indicated the confrontation was prompted by the dismissive sneers of French onlookers as the Eisenhower
Lady Madrigals performed 'The Greatest Love of All' at a Paris park.

"It may not sound like much, but after three days of smelly French cigarettes and being called 'cowboys' and 'arrogant' and 'stupid' and stuff, it finally gets to you," said Megan Prosser, a sophomore alto who led the initial charge. "Basically, we just snapped."

Those who have seen the videotapes of the Wednesday charge described it as "disturbing." "It is said the French oppose war because they know first hand its horror," said Edward Krohn, a visiting Professor from the Naval War College. "When I see hundreds of grown French men being beaten senseless by Texas schoolgirls, I completely see their point."

By the time the Eisenhower Boys Barbershop Chorale learned of the melee, the Lady Madrigals had already captured Paris' Second, Third and Fifth Arrondisements.

"It became sort of like a game," explained senior baritone Kevin Wilkes. "Like Ghost Recon , except the other guy just wets himself and runs away. We just wanted to win more ground than the girls and I guess it got out of hand."

When dawn broke Friday, the students had swept north to Calais, blocking the English Channel from would-be French escapees.

Plagued by massive desertions and too-firm brie rations, the French army and Legion Etranger were ready to collapse by Thursday morning, but held out another 12 hours after receiving reinforcements from a group of 15 volunteer human shields from the United States.

Led by filmmaker Michael Moore, the group vowed to "use our own bodies to block American high school imperialism and colonialism," and asked the French to "show us your solidarity with pastry, and some good butter."

Moore was later taken into custody after an Eisenhower PsyOps agent mesmerized him with a box of the band's fundraising chocolate bars.

Amid panic and widespread wine shortages, President Chirac called Washington Thursday evening to request emergency U.S. military support for the crumbling nation.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said President Bush vowed to "immediately send Secretary of State Powell to the United Nations to request the scheduling of a vote for the formulation of a committee to create an investigative team, at the earliest possible convenience."

The assault continued into the night Thursday as various forces of the school's performing arts department formed sweeping attack columns: Glee Club to the Pyrennes, Swing Band and Wind Ensemble to the Mediterranean, Symphonic Band to the Rhein. By early Friday morning, the fighting had
largely ended.

"We kept hearing about some French resistance," said Baumer. "Apparently that was a myth."

Despite the furious action, casualties were low with no reported deaths. Some two million French remain hospitalized with minor injuries sustained while bowing, scraping, pleading and running away. Six of the 135
Eisenhower students were treated for injuries related to foot blisters and excessive kissing.

The swift rout of Europe's second largest military force caught many in the international diplomatic community by surprise.

United Nations Secretary General Koffi Annan convened an emergency meeting of the General Assembly late Thursday to consider whether teen-occupied France would retain its seat on the UN Security Council.

A member of the Dutch delegation, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the country had sufficient votes to retain council membership because "international stability is paramount when considering American teenagers with nuclear weapons."

By mid-morning Friday, more than 40 countries had contacted Baumer to offer congratulations and request formal diplomatic ties, but as many as 100 world leaders expressed concern over prank phone calls from students. Particularly
hard-hit was President Uthai Partasuk Jaat of Thailand, whose name vaguely resembles a popular character in Star Wars episode IV.

While normalization continues, there remains widespread confusion of the crisis and its effect on volatile world hotspots such as Iraq, Iran, Israel and North Korea.

On Friday, it remained unclear what the name of the new country would be. Baumer said the victorious band and choir members were evenly split between 'France Junior' and 'Cowboy Corral'.

Raucous celebrations followed news of the French surrender, as dozens of Eisenhower students tossed rolls of toilet paper at the barren elms along the Champs Elysses and staged drag races through the Arc de Triomphe, mooning the populace through the windows of commandeered Citroens. Others unfurled a huge banner from the Eiffel Tower declaring "EHS Rulez, EU Droolz".

The revelry led Baumer to issue a stern reprimand to the students, warning of consequences including "UN sanctions, or even worse, ... possibly a note home to your parents."

In Aldine, disciplinary notes seemed unlikely to dampen the enthusiasm of parents and families of the triumphant Eisenhower music students. Hundreds of local residents followed the action on television, and the conquest of
the Gallic land mass has become a point of civic pride.

"Beating France is the biggest win for Eisenhower since we beat Conroe Judson in the '88 Super-sectionals," says longtime resident Wayne McDaniel, president of the Eisenhower Eagle Booster Club. "We're planning a big wing-ding when they get back."

Activities planned for the commemoration include a parade, as well as what McDaniel called "a very big plaque," at the Aldine Kiwanis hall.

"Although, we might have to wait on that for a while," added McDaniel. We're having a bake sale and car wash to send the football team to Germany."

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philozarton

03/01/03 9:56 PM

#13489 RE: Mattu #13456

From Jail Cell to the Job Market
Conservatives Back Work Programs for Ex-Inmates
December 13, 2002

By Steven Greenhouse

Welfare-to-work programs have moved thousands of women from welfare into jobs, and now many conservative groups that championed those programs are trying to apply them to another problematic population: the hundreds of thousands of men who are released from prisons each year.
Top Ten Signs You Don't Belong in this Class 08/29/2001


10. The first word in the title is Honors. /ChrisG

9. The teacher speaks Klingon...and so does everyone else. /precarious

8. Most people wouldn't consider Technical Theatre a major. /goodman

7. This class doesn't accept that kind of photography. /Fook

6. You've uttered the phrase "If god wanted us to know 3D calculus, it would have been in the bible" on more than one occasion. /DFD

5. It's philosophy and you're sober. /SANDKICKER

4. The sign on science lab door: "We have not had a fatal accident in _ 2 _ days". /ChrisG

3. The teacher boos and throws empty beer cans at you when you enter the room. /ChrisG

Doesn't sound like that bad of a class to us...

2. You wonder why the women in your Feminism class are looking at you funny. You can't figure out whether it's the jeans, the sneakers, or the Hooters t-shirt. /Talia

thekidinthehall is only qualified to attend AA 101...

1. You brought a dictionary to look up the meaning of the word Kinesiology.


The organizations, run by religious conservatives and crime-fighting conservatives, believe that the welfare-to-work model -- a mix of tough love and true training -- may reduce recidivism and move many of the roughly 550,000 men released from prison each year nationwide into meaningful employment. In fact, these conservative efforts are part of an emerging and rare consensus to work with a population that has long been the focus of liberal groups.
Top Ten Signs That You Should Be Dead 03/10/2001


10. You know all of the words to that movie Grease. /Shortney33

9. You've started listening to the Backstreet Boys. /Eggy07

8. You're trying to break up Napster. /DFD

7.You are an unknown Star Trek ensign in a red uniform going on an away mission. /Talia

6. Reoccurring fantasy of you and Roseanne Barr in a tub of fruited Jello. /jbray4Re

5. You're a white rapper. /NuT wItH a GuN

4. You're in the US Military and Bush has just become president. /Gerry

Isn't that a sign that you WILL be dead soon?

3. You drive an SUV that rhymes with "sword flex snorer." /juparc chacar (smbshahn@aol.com)

2. Every Friday you eat at the local Jack In The Box restaurant. /Hephestos

Someguy is making us edgy about the state of this great nation...

1. You're America's Vice President, and you've already had 2 heart attacks in 4 months.


"The 600,000 prisoners released each year, if not the biggest problem on the social agenda, has to be in the top five," said William B. Eimicke, a Columbia University professor of management, who recently completed a study of job programs for ex-offenders for the conservative Manhattan Institute. "Rehabilitation for criminals was originally viewed as more of a liberal issue. But moderates and even right-wing conservatives can embrace it, too, because it has a very strong self-help theme, it will contribute to the economy and perhaps most importantly it has the potential to save taxpayers a lot of money."

Top Ten Signs the Guy Sitting Next to You Just Escaped From Jail 01/13/2001


10. He claims that the letters "D.O.C" on the back of his bright orange jumpsuit is short for Doctor. /MikeyF

9. He finishes his meal and exclaims, "now THAT'S good food!" But you're at Denny's. /juparc chacar (smbshahn@aol.com)

8. No normal person keeps his cigarettes there. /pinto!

7. Most people don't try to tunnel out of a movie theater. /Y2K1 Bug

6. He repeatedly asks if you know any one-armed men. /juparc chacar (smbshahn@aol.com)

5. When he complains about "the old ball and chain", he's not referring to his wife. /chrisco

4. He's wearing a Dallas Cowboy uniform. /xman

3. You can't exactly place it, but its something about the way how he keeps calling your ass "Tender meat." /Graffiti Dog

2. He is throwing soap on the floor all the time. /sandkicker

We've got a jail break, zeeb...

1. His t-shirt that reads "I just killed five guards on my way out and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."

Over the past year, America Works, a Manhattan-based company, has used its welfare-to-work model to place more than 300 former prisoners in jobs. Eager to strengthen ties between incarcerated fathers and their children, several religious conservatives have created job training programs for ex-offenders.

In New York City, two Republican mayors -- Rudolph W. Giuliani and Michael R. Bloomberg -- have awarded record amounts of money for job programs for former prisoners. John J. DiIulio Jr., a Democrat who was the director of the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives in the current Bush White House, is pressing Congress for a tenfold increase in spending on job programs for ex-offenders.
Top Ten Things Not to Say in a Hostage Situation 01/16/2001


10. So we break in the back door? Brilliant! . . . uhh. . . the megaphone's on. /Fuzzball the great and powerful

9. I did NOT have sexual relations with your wife... /Y2K1 Bug

8. I hope I don't die next. /Darwin Is Dead

7. Ya know, if I were you I'd shoot myself, because your not going to get out of this alive. /Skitmaker

6. Wouldn't it be funny if the cops showed up? /Smokey the Bear

5. Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? /juparc chacar (smbshahn@aol.com)

4. Don't shoot! Oh, and by the way, you're adopted. /Y2K1 Bug

3. Your ideas sound foolish to me, and thus I must now mock you, your value system and everything you have ever believed in. Even if you wished to kill me, your impotence and general lack of manhood would prevent that characteristically irrational action. /Baron

Isn't that what you say to confuse them?

2. This is so going to ruin my shirt. /NuT wItH a GuN

SkyWalker707 always knows the wrong thing to say at the wrong time...

1. So what if you're having problems, it's nothing a little plastic surgery couldn't fix!


Former prisoners are attracting more attention partly because a record number of them are being released, about 1,600 a day, a direct result of the national prison population's climbing to a record in recent years, nearly two million.

One statistic has especially pressed conservatives and liberals alike to assist this group: nearly two-thirds of ex-offenders are arrested again within three years of release, meaning they committed hundreds of thousands of new crimes.

"Although the number of studies is limited, it has become clear that training ex-offenders and placing them in jobs is an important way to keep these people from going back to prison," said Jeremy Travis, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute.

On a recent Monday, a dozen newly released prisoners, all men, headed to the 12th-floor Manhattan office of America Works to ask for job-hunting leads and to attend a three-day workshop.

Juan Cortez, who runs the workshops, tells the ex-offenders not to lie when interviewers ask whether they served time. Rather, he tells them to minimize their violations. Instead of saying they were convicted on drug charges, he advises, they should say that they were involved in a situation where controlled substances were present and that they have done everything to put it behind them.

At the workshop, Mr. Cortez, who obtained a bachelor's degree and two master's while in jail on a gang-related manslaughter conviction, urged the former felons to think several years ahead. He asked Raymond, who had served 12 years on drug charges, "What do you see yourself doing in two, three years, remembering that you're young and have a lot of potential? And remember, you have a wife and the most important thing in the world, a young kid."

Raymond responded, "I want to own a business, be a successful businessman." For the short term, Raymond said, he wants a janitorial or warehouse job, prompting Mr. Cortez to talk inspiringly about two former prisoners who at first took janitorial jobs and now run a floor-buffing company that employs 16 people.

America Works places ex-offenders in janitorial jobs as well as in light-industrial, restaurant and telemarketing jobs. Company officials note that many fast-talking ex-offenders excel at telemarketing. To many companies, these workers are not threatening; 75 percent of ex-offenders were not in prison for violent crimes and one-third were in for drug offenses, up from 11 percent in 1985.

Nonetheless, job-placement efforts face considerable barriers, among them fears of former prisoners and laws barring ex-offenders from various occupations.

Still, Sheldon Flatow, whose company in Queens makes air-conditioning ducts, said he was delighted with the three former prisoners he had hired. "They're excellent employees," he said. "They do whatever I ask. My experience has been so positive, I don't see why anyone wouldn't do it."

Professor Eimicke's study found that of 891 ex-offenders who signed up for the three-day workshop at America Works, 501 finished it and 389 were placed in jobs. Of those 42 percent kept their jobs for at least six months.

Noting that New York State spends about $30,000 a year to keep someone in prison, his study concluded that such job-placement programs could save the state millions of dollars a year by reducing recidivism, the rate at which ex-convicts return to prison, and thus cutting prison costs.

"One unintended consequence of the welfare-to-work program was it empowered women while a lot of men disappeared and went to jail," said Lee Bowes, chief executive of America Works, which runs one of the nation's most successful welfare-to-work programs. "Now we're trying to do something to help the men."

Jorge N., who served two years for drug possession, complained that he had no luck finding a job on his own when he was released last April. Frustrated, he went to America Works on a friend's advice, and it directed him to a toy factory in Queens.

Jorge now earns $7.50 an hour at the factory, doing shipping, receiving, stocking and unloading. "It's very important for me that I can help support my 13-year-old daughter," he said.

Elizabeth Gaynes, executive director of the Osborne Association, a New York nonprofit agency that was a pioneer in assisting ex-offenders, said prisons did a bad job preparing inmates for work.

"Prison is probably the single worst place in the world to prepare people to succeed at a job," she said. "All the things that make someone a good worker -- initiative, being careful, trying to go the extra mile -- prison discourages."

Like the Osborne Association, the Center for Employment Opportunities, in Manhattan, takes ex-offenders to drug programs, implores judges to ease child support payments and asks parole officers to change appointments so they do not conflict with a parolee's work hours.

"These guys are coming home with an incredible number of obligations," said Mindy Tarlow, the center's executive director. "They need to report to parole officers and get drug tests. They have curfews. They can't go to certain neighborhoods."

Top Ten Signs Your FBI Partner is Selling Secrets to Russia 03/01/2001


10. You always have to buy the coffee, because all he ever seems to have is rubles. /Loon with a fried egg on top and spam

9. He's been granted special access to Anna Kournikova. /pinto

8. When you ask him about it, he says, "Nyet, Comrade!" /Scientist

7. How else do you think George W Bush got elected? /Hephestos

6. He just bought a huge ranch house to retire in, in the nice warm Russian resort town of Hrtyzcvplqein. /bigjtp

5. His X-Files video collection appears to be getting smaller every week. /Gerry

4. He keeps telling you about the great deals he can get on mail order brides. /pinto

3. You've been looking all over and can't find a fur hat as nice as his. /ladylazarus

2. There is a packet on his desk, labeled to go to Russia, labeled "SURVIVOR II WINNER: TOP SECRET." /hunterj

bigjtp knew something was fishy...

1. Vodka, vodka, vodka, vodka, vodka, vodka, and vodka.

Having served 39 months for bank fraud, Bernard Rutledge said job programs had opened doors for him. For three months, he has, with the help of the Osborne Association, worked for a restaurant supply company in Queens. He is proud that he just received health insurance and a 50-cent raise to $7 an hour.
Top Ten Signs You Need to Bathe More Often 05/12/2001


10. You ACTUALLY have potatoes growing from your ears. /The Great O`Connor

9. You can clear every one out of a bank and you don't even need a gun. /glitch

8. You've been awarded numerous times for water conservation. /Squeakgator

7. Skunks attempt to mate with you on a regular basis. /Smokey the Bear

6. You never thought that stink lines were actually visible. /thekidinthehall

5. People ask you if you are from Europe. /Sad sack

4. After your dog rolls around in his own piss for half an hour he still smells better than you do. /bawls16

3. Your smell doesn't only linger, it arrives ahead of time, and makes itself comfortable. /kramertim

2. The US has decided to fly you to China as a 'secret biological weapon'. /hunterj

TheScottster just went out and got some soap...

1. Your address is known at your local post office only by the name 'Ground Zero'.


"I used to be young and full of myself," he said. "My wife, she made me see that there were other things than fast money."

Criminal justice experts say today's ex-offenders are generally less prepared for the job market than prisoners in decades past because they served longer sentences on average and many states emphasized building prisons in the 1990's and spent less on educational and vocational programs for inmates. One study found that recidivism is 20 percent lower for prisoners who participated in vocational programs while in prison.

One religious group that embraced the cause of former prisoners is the Institute for Responsible Fatherhood and Family Revitalization, which has job programs in New York and eight other states. After the institute placed several dozen former Rikers Island inmates in jobs, New York City's Human Resources Administration gave it a five-year contract to train and place at least 200 ex-offenders a year.

Mr. DiIulio, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, has begun championing the cause of ex-offenders, saying that aiding them will give crucial help to their children and communities.

"The moment has arrived where people right, left and center recognize we have a practical opportunity and moral obligation to do much more with this population of men," he said. "It's not that these men are victims and therefore we had better give them this. They've paid their debt to society. They're coming out. We have the resources. We can do more and better by these men and by their children and their families. That's where the consensus has come."

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03/01/03 10:50 PM

#13494 RE: Mattu #13456

Matt with all due respect
I have no regrets about anything I have said
I have meant every single word that I have posted
Therefore no apologies from me unfortunately
If you allow me to post again,Unfortunately I will do and say as I have done before
I know that it means I can not post again ,but that is fine
I rather stick to what I believe,and believe in what I say
The points I have posted,will ring forever in some of the minds that have read it.
Therefore I have achieved what I set out to achieve.

I have accessm to various computers and can register different names and cause havoc on the political zionists site.
But I can not be bothered,the thread is not important enough.

I will only say
I do not have to wake up every morning and see a Jew in the mirror and that is salvation enough for me.


God bless America and The United Kingdom

Bye