Yep plenty others and i dont have $ to buy 15 hope 4-5 hit so we do what we do sdh. Options coming along though added SPX to watch will study while longer and start playing the options regular basis think nice moves both ways, still learning good stuff. Check alexed post on our other board has some good info on cci in interested but seems it all comes back to same basics just how complicated u want to make it. My 2c