Most of the losses come to those who stay behind when the companies finally fold and fold they do. There is an approximate ratio of 9 failures for every success. RENU does not look like a success, does not act like a success, and is likely not a success, now or for the future. I am down about $5,000 dollars bought it quite high. However at the time it was the same talk about RENU; it was going to be an instance success in no less the shoe market. Couldn't do shoes and probably won't do energy.