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StephanieVanbryce

08/15/12 8:14 PM

#181983 RE: fuagf #181978

I look at it as more of a right to do .. rather than a threat. They do have the right to arrest him no? .. but NOT inside .. I thought only outside.. . I saw they had the whole place and other parking lots and cameras on windows everything .. on the Ecuadorian embassy And the surrounding landscape .. cameras anywhere .. after all he's still in Britain . .even though he is in another embassy.. right?

you must forgive me as I have lost any feeling for Julian .. I don't know if he broke American Law .. . .. Maybe F6 would know .. .however, to me.... it's very tacky to not go face rape charges .. when other people do it .. there's a manhunt .. when Julian does it . it's just so cutesy ... I'm sick of him ! .... . no sympathy whatsoever anymore .. He sold himself when he started his program on rt .. Putins tv station .... and no I don't think everybody who has programs on rt are low lifes .. just him ... as he is the one who has made very clear his feelings and the goings of 'state controlled press' .. and by God he STILL went to have his show with Vladimir .. what hypocrisy! he'll use anything! .. screw him . .I'm done with him ...

.lolol .. just had to get that out .. ;) .. here's another article on it ..

Assange faces arrest even if Ecuador grants asylum

Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:03pm IST
By Estelle Shirbon and Maria Golovnina

Ecuador decision on Assange asylum expected imminently

* Asylum would not help Assange to get out of Britain

* Sweden wants him to stand trial over rape accusations

LONDON, Aug 15 (Reuters) - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has no way of leaving his refuge in the Ecuadorean embassy in London without being arrested, even if Quito grants him asylum shortly, lawyers say.

The Australian has been in the embassy for eight weeks since losing a legal battle to avoid extradition to Sweden, where he is wanted to stand trial for rape.

Assange denies the accusations made by two female WikiLeaks supporters. He fears Sweden could send him on to the United States, where he believes authorities want to punish him for publishing thousands of secret U.S. diplomatic cables on WikiLeaks in 2010 in a major embarrassment for Washington.

President Rafael Correa, who is openly sympathetic to Assange, is expected to decide on his asylum request this week. However, approval would offer no legal protection in Britain where police will arrest him once they get a chance.

"The question of asylum is arguably a red herring," said former British government lawyer Carl Gardner.

Assange, who is also liable to arrest for skipping bail, would still have to find a way of getting from central London to South America without passing through British territory.

"I can't see the UK backing down and just allowing him safe passage out of the country," said Rebecca Niblock, an extradition specialist at London law firm Kingsley Napley.

"I think the UK will see their obligations under the European extradition system as overriding any diplomatic relations with Ecuador, who haven't really been considering their diplomatic relations with the UK, apparently."

"CLIMB OUT OF A WINDOW"

Assange would be protected from arrest if travelling in a diplomatic car, but the embassy is on the first floor of a building that is being watched by police day and night.

The tall red-brick block just behind the Harrods department store also houses the Colombian embassy and private apartments. A police van was parked outside the main entrance on Wednesday and police officers were patrolling the area in pairs.

The property has several gated entrances and a private car park, but the Ecuadorean embassy is not linked internally with any of them, making the front entrance its only point of exit, a security manager at the building told Reuters.

"There is no other exit. He is going to have to come out of the main entrance," said the manager, who asked not to be named. "There is no way to bring a vehicle in because the car park is private and it is not connected in any way to their premises."

He added: "He can climb out of a window, of course, but there are CCTV cameras everywhere."

Even if he somehow managed to get out of the building and into a waiting car unnoticed by police, he would have to leave the vehicle at some point to board a flight out of Britain, offering more opportunities for his arrest.

Other scenarios lawyers are discussing on the Internet include smuggling him out in a diplomatic bag, which would be illegal, or appointing him as an Ecuadorean diplomat to give him immunity. But lawyers and diplomats said neither was realistic.

Even if Assange were willing to try his luck packed in a crate all the way to Quito, a risky plan by any measure, it seems unlikely Ecuador would attempt such a scheme.

Nigeria tried it in 1984, when it had a former minister accused of corruption kidnapped in London and shipped out in a crate, but the plan was foiled and ridicule ensued.

FEARS OF DEATH PENALTY UNFOUNDED

A diplomatic appointment by Ecuador in London would not help either because Britain would have to approve that, and it has no incentive to do so.

The possibility of appointing Assange as an Ecuadorean envoy to the United Nations has been raised, but that would be open to legal challenge.

Assange has not said publicly why he chose to seek refuge in the Ecuadorean embassy. Whatever his motivations, lawyers said his supporters' warnings that he could face the death penalty if sent to the United States were unfounded.

"There may be people in the USA who think he should be tried for capital crimes, convicted, and executed," wrote lawyer Francis FitzGibbon on his blog. "But while he remains in the jurisdiction of the UK or Sweden, that's not going to happen."

Both countries are signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights, which prevents them from extraditing anybody to a country where they would risk the death penalty.

The United States would have to give assurances that Assange would not face ill treatment or death in order to obtain his extradition from either London or Stockholm.

If Assange's main motivation is fear of a transfer to the United States, his determination to remain in Britain rather than going to Sweden to defend himself is puzzling.

"Why would the U.S. not just request his extradition from here where it's pretty easy? It's not easier from Sweden," said Niblock.

The British government has said it was determined to fulfil its legal obligation to extradite Assange to Sweden. Britain's Supreme Court has ruled the Swedish arrest warrant was valid and Assange should be sent to Stockholm.

Before he went to the embassy, Assange was free on bail pending the outcome of Sweden's extradition request. By holing up in the embassy, he has breached his bail conditions.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/15/wikileaks-assange-idINL6E8JF79220120815

He seems to think he is above the law now in two countries at least if not more.. Sweden and now England.
... I hope he stays in the embassy forever ... The airport is waiting for him too ... ;) It's probably better than jail IF he would have been found guilty .. which to me was a bit doubtful after reading a little about Swedish law on the subject ...but not showing up ... proclaims his guilt .. You Play? You may have to Pay. for the rest of us anyway ...

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fuagf

01/27/19 4:59 PM

#299278 RE: fuagf #181978

How Julian Assange became an unwelcome guest in Ecuador's embassy

"UK threatened to arrest Assange inside embassy, says Ecuadorean minister"

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I think he has Flynn dead to rights.

I think Manafort, Donnie Dumbass Jr and Jared are toast.

You may not believe that Jullian Assange is Russia or that he wasn't working for them, but the US government does, and that includes
the current administration ( https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/14/cia-director-brands-wikileaks-a-hostile-intelligence-service )
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=146374598

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Ecuador's ex-president Rafael Correa requests asylum in Belgium
Ecuadoran judge demanded Correa return to face charges related to 2012 kidnapping of an opponent
AFP in Brussels
Thu 8 Nov 2018 13.04 EST
Last modified on Thu 8 Nov 2018 13.22 EST
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/08/rafael-correa-ecuador-ex-president-asylum-belgium

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Lenín Boltaire Moreno Garcés (Spanish pronunciation: ... born 19 March 1953) is an Ecuadorian politician who is the President of Ecuador, in office since 2017. He was Vice President from 2007 to 2013, serving under President Rafael Correa.

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Eventa Foundation

After being shot, Moreno created the foundation "Eventa" to promote humor and joy as a way of life based on his personal experiences.

He is the author of numerous books on his theory of humor, including: Filosofía para la vida y el trabajo ("Philosophy for life and work"), Teoría y Práctica del Humor ("Theory and Practice of Comedy"), Ser Feliz es Fácil y Divertido ("Being Happy is Easy and Fun"), Los Mejores Chistes del Mundo ("World's Best Jokes"), Humor de los Famosos ("Humor of the Famous"), Trompabulario, Ríase, no sea enfermo ("Laugh, don’t be sick") and Cuentos no Ecológicos ("Non-Ecological Tales").[9]

Vice Presidency

During his first year in the office of Vice President, Moreno investigated the state of disabled people in Ecuador. At the time the government’s entire budget for disabled services was approximately 100,000 U.S. dollars. Moreno increased the budget for disabled people more than fifty-fold. The state currently assists over 600,000 disabled Ecuadorians, and provides housing and income for 15,000 people and prostheses for another 4,000.[5] .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/19/laughing-ecuador-president-moreno-quits

He also founded the Manuela Espejo Solidarity Mission for the Disabled, which offers rehab, technical help, and psychological support to thousands of disabled Ecuadorians. Between 2009 and 2010 the Solidarity Mission visited over 1.2 million homes around the country and interviewed nearly 300,000 disabled people to find out what needs were most pressing. Many of those people received free medical checkups. And now the Solidarity Mission is spreading to Paraguay, Peru, Guatemala, Chile, El Salvador and Colombia.[10]

Moreno left the vice presidency on 24 May 2013 and was succeeded by Jorge Glas.[11] He was the first vice president to complete his term since 1992.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len%C3%ADn_Moreno
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He has been in the Knightsbridge building for six years, but his departure looks ever more likely

by Luke Harding, Stephanie Kirchgaessner and Dan Collyns

Tue 15 May 2018 12.00 EDT
Last modified on Mon 30 Jul 2018 12.57 EDT

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Soon afterwards, the left-leaning then president of Ecuador, Rafael Correa, agreed to Assange’s request, precipitating a major diplomatic row with the British government. And a full-blown siege. Metropolitan police officers swarmed outside the building, ready to arrest Assange should he venture out.

It was against this febrile backdrop that Correa authorised a secret programme named “Operation Guest”. It was later renamed “Operation Hotel”. The guest was Assange, politely referred to as el huésped.

The goal, at first, was to stop detectives bursting into the modest ground-floor embassy and dragging Assange away.

But documents seen by the Guardian show it developed into something more complex. The aim seems to have changed from protecting Assange – which propped up WikiLeaks in the process – to spying on him.

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How WikiLeaks got the emails in the first place is an enduring mystery.

Did someone drop them off to Assange on a flash drive? Were the files uploaded on to an encrypted remote server? Or did they come in by some other route?

Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to win the election, is looking for the answer. The secret records seen by the Guardian and the magazine Focus Ecuador may give him important new clues.

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None of this came cheap.

The documents set out how Ecuador’s intelligence agency, known as Senain, hired an international security company. Its bill in 2012 was $55,000 (£40,000) a month, paid from a “special expenses” government budget.

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Assange has refused to say how the emails got to WikiLeaks. He denies they came from a “state actor”. The FBI does not appear to believe him. Giving evidence last year, the agency’s then director, James Comey, told Congress that Moscow was behind the DNC cyber-raid. An “intermediary”, he said, passed the emails to WikiLeaks.

Assange’s relationship with Moscow is certainly longstanding. In 2011, he signed a deal with the Kremlin-owned television network RT. The Julian Assange Show featured 10 guests, including Correa. Weeks after Assange’s interview with Correa was broadcast, the Australian sought refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy.

The logs record that Assange had more than 80 visitors in one month in 2016. They included the WikiLeaks staff member Sarah Harrison and longtime supporters such as Craig Murray, the UK’s former ambassador to Uzbekistan. Another was the Croatian philosopher Srecko Horvat.

There were also visits from Assange’s lawyer Gareth Peirce and Vaughan Smith, the founder of the Frontline Club, who hosted WikiLeaks at his Norfolk mansion for 13 months up until Assange jumped bail. On 23 June 2016, RT broadcast a referendum special from inside the embassy, with the final guests leaving at 4.30am.

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By 2014, it appears tensions over Assange were growing. The documents reveal that Ecuador’s then ambassador to the UK, Juan Falconí Puig, forwarded a complaint to Senain after a bill arrived for unpaid council tax from Kensington and Chelsea. The tax was payable on the agents’ clandestine flat in Basil Mansions. Falconí had no idea it existed. He rang Patiño, demanding to know what was going on, according to sources in Quito.
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That autumn, the security consultants reported that Assange had somehow set up his own secret communications network.

Moreover, they said he had “violated” the embassy’s computers and was apparently reading confidential diplomatic traffic, the company reported. Embassy staff apparently kept their personal files on Assange in a safe – the one place he could not access.

The head of Ecuadorian intelligence, Rommy Vallejo, held a meeting with Patiño to discuss the Assange situation and the “risks” he posed to embassy staff. Over time, Assange came to take up more than one-third of the embassy’s ground-floor space. Initially, he slept in narrow room next to the balcony. He subsequently colonised a back room as a bedroom and occupied half the kitchen. Assange’s unkempt realm was home to WikiLeaks and its computers, and was entirely private. There was no CCTV. It was off limits to diplomats, the rooms only accessible via special codes.

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The logs do not explain how WikiLeaks received the 70,000 Democratic emails that had been hacked.

By the spring of this year, developments in Quito had moved in an ominous direction for Assange. Ecuador’s president, Lenín Moreno, pronounced him a costly “inherited problem” and made it clear that he viewed Assange as an obstacle to better relations with the US.

As a candidate, Donald Trump praised WikiLeaks when it revealed embarrassing Democratic party secrets. When Assange released the email correspondence of the Clinton aide John Podesta, Trump exclaimed: “I love WikiLeaks.” Before and after the election, Donald Trump Jr exchanged a handful of direct Twitter messages .. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/13/donald-trump-jr-communicated-with-wikileaks-during-final-stages-of-election .. with Assange.

Seemingly, the Trump White House changed its view when Wikileaks dumped out classified CIA hacking tools. The agency’s then director, Mike Pompeo, who was later made secretary of state, dubbed WikiLeaks a “hostile intelligence service”.

In March, Assange’s internet access was cut off. A jammer was installed to prevent him from accessing emails. For more than a month, he has been forbidden visitors. Friends say he is passing the time by reading. They say he is leafing through books on the US election, which WikiLeaks did so much to influence and – its critics allege – subvert. Meanwhile, Correa, Assange’s protector and patron, has moved to Belgium. He has since landed at job at RT.

Last week, the embassy appeared deserted. Nearby, well-heeled passengers emerged from Bentleys and Mercedes outside Harrods. Six supporters held banners that said “Free Assange” and #ReconnectJulian. A violinist serenaded him from the pavement. There was no sign of the guest, but the window next to his balcony was open.

Assange faces a tough choice. If he walks out of the embassy, he can expect arrest and could spend up to a year in prison for breaking his bail conditions.

The US might then seek to extradite him. He would contest any attempt, and might win, but would face a long, uncomfortable spell behind bars while his case is decided.

Ecuadorian government sources say Quito is considering a plan for where Assange might go next. Russia would be an obvious choice, though this would cause problems with the US. Cuba and Venezuela are also said to be under discussion. Since January, Assange has officially been an Ecuadorian diplomat. However, this probably would not stop the UK arresting him if it had the chance.

If Assange remains in the embassy, cut off from the world, WikiLeaks cannot function. Either way, it is clear that Ecuador no longer wants him. His future is more uncertain than ever. The most likely scenario is that he will soon walk out the door.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/15/julian-assange-ecuador-london-embassy-how-he-became-unwelcome-guest

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