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johnnym

09/21/05 2:23 PM

#18335 RE: sadee #18334

From observing recent moves it looks like if they cannot make phones and sell them, then they might extort some money with their patent? Just one of many possibilties :^)

JM

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Michael Allard

09/21/05 2:27 PM

#18336 RE: sadee #18334

Sadee:

Of course you will get different viewpoints between Sosa and I, but here are my opinion and interpretations:

Positive:

- The c1250i looked better in person than on the website
- The real c1250i w/ rotating camera was on a poster
- Sleipner was touting CLYW as their manufacturing partner

Negative:

- Sleipner is not currently using ASNAP, nor do they need to.
- Sleipner does not see a market for ASNAP (but they are focused on Italy mainly)
- There will NOT be an order for 4 Million phones from Sleipner
- The production phones will not be ready until at least January
- Sleipner picked the c1250i because it is the only Windows based flip phone available that they could put their software on, and really for no other reason.
- There are battery issues with the c1250i (and all other WiFi phones)
- There is a LOT of competition for ASNAP, many selling product now, most in the next few months (Christmas season).

Potentially Misleading Statements CLYW has made:

- ASNAP was not demonstrated at the show (at least not yesterday)
- The c1250i was not working in GSM or WiFi mode - GSM due to some registration on the network issue, WiFi because there were too many access points at the show.
- There will not be a 4 Million unit order from Sleipner
- The current phone gets less than 2 hours of talk or standby time in WiFi mode.
- If Sleipner is a subsidiary of CLYW, there are definitely misleading statements here.

My bottom line is that if the Sleipner booth at the show was supposed to make me feel better about CLYW and ASNAP being legitimate, more questions were raised than answered.

Follow that thought with more management changes, more strategic realigning (CLYW buying or owning or investing in Sleipner????), Sleipner asking us to report potential infringers of CLYW's patent to CLYW??? Seriously, this is getting bizare.

If this is a technology company (ASNAP) and they have a valuable patent, they should be spending money defending their IP rather than buying their customers and suppliers. There are plenty of companies demonstrating products that appear to violate the patent as CLYW portrays things.


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Sosa

09/21/05 4:13 PM

#18343 RE: sadee #18334

At first, I was disappointed with their setup. That is, their booth compared to some of the exhibitors. Don't get wrong, some exhibitors have deep pockets and can afford elaborate setups, while others had no products to display just brochures.

Upon further discussion with Bruno, it became apparent that their intention was not to let people see what they have but rather to see what product the competition have and to determine if their products are infringing.

If Calypso had jumped the gun and try to claim infringment, the competition would deny the product existed. Now they can't claim that because they just advertised to the whole world they have this product that seamlessly roams and provides revenue sharing. I sensed Calypso was waiting for this VON Expo.

I am sure the brochures that Bruno and the engineers picked up will appear in court one day.

To answer your question, I went there to investigate the following;

1. Does a phone exist.
2. When will they start selling them
2. Is it embedded with ASNAP(tm)
3. Who is their target market.
4. How are the carriers embracing this technology.
5. How strong is the patent.