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04/15/01 7:09 PM

#448 RE: Mattu #442

I've never been 'associated' with anyone. I did my own homework and did my own investing. Was never paid by anyone.

Merriam-Webster defines associate as follows:

transitive senses
1 : to join as a partner, friend, or companion
2 obsolete : to keep company with : ATTEND
3 : to join or connect together : COMBINE
4 : to bring together or into relationship in any of various intangible ways (as in memory or imagination)
intransitive senses
1 : to come or be together as partners, friends, or companions
2 : to combine or join with other parts : UNITE
synonym see JOIN

Everyone has been associated with someone at some time. You are associated with Ihub Admin Bob. You are associated with the financial backer(s) of your site. You can split hairs if you like....the fact is, you were involved in a club (actually, it looks like you created it) with people who were hyping OTC/BB stocks, including ECNC. You wrote some things yourself that could only be called hype (I suppose you could substitute the phrase “extreme enthusiasm”). When I stumbled across that site (Club Fatt, where ECNC was hyped) and posted a link to it, you took the site down. On RB, you invited a fellow “extremely enthusiastic” supporter of the stock that was being hyped to come to IHub and become the Chairman of the Board for that stock. The exact phrase you used in telling this lucky supporter of the stock that he would be COB for the stock was this: “I am going to make you wet your pants.. it's about my site...you gonna be da man for ECNC”.

At the time you did that, you were posting regularly about the virtues of ECNC. I am going to assume that at that time you had a long position in ECNC, though I am inferring that from the situation and do not know it to be a fact. It is also true, is it not, that ECNC belongs (or did, since it is currently worth a dime a share and may have been delisted by now) to the only group of stocks which IHub does not allow to have competing threads on. So you set up a fellow long as the COB of the thread, on a site you run, on a stock you were (I am assuming, correct me if I am wrong) long in, and set up TOU’s on your site so nobody else can do set up another thread on that stock. Am I right so far? Or am I missing something?

Actually, I had been meaning to take the site down a long time ago. People seem to think if you tried to bring a group of folks together to discuss OTC BB issues that you are a scammmer and a P&D. I was *never paid* to talk about the few stocks I did. It was just something I had fun doing and enjoyed doing -- research. I still have all the reports, so I can look back on and see how I have improved my investment style.

People are entitled to draw their own conclusions based on the truth, Matt. You meant to take down that site a long time ago? Why? It isn’t costing anything to leave it there. It’s just a piece of history. Why cover it up? I did not say you were paid to talk about the stock you talked about, though the fact that you were long the stocks may mean that you reaped financial benefit from what was being said at the time it was said. As for the “research” reports, which you have kept so you can see how you have “improved” your investment style, why can’t we see them too?

I have no problems with that. Post away. My DD report I did is all over RB/SI. Make sure you know the whole story.

Matt, you took down the site. How am I supposed to know the whole story when you take down the site? I have said in each of my posts about this that I don’t know the whole story. I still don’t. I could post those pages about ECNC, maybe I will. I don’t know if they constitute the complete story because you took down the site. Also, if there were posts on IHub about it that comprise part of the complete story, maybe you deleted those too, or the COB of that thread did. I don’t have any way of knowing. You know the whole story. Tell it.

I have absolutely nothing to hide. Everybody knows my name, etc. Look at the SI vs iHub thread. They have been digging and digging on me. There is nothing.

I am not convinced of that yet. And your taking down the site suggests that there was, just maybe, a fire that you felt needed to be put out. But since I only skimmed a handful of pages before you took it down, I really don’t know.

"Da man of ECNC" - simple, the Chairman of that board...I was pumped about what I was building back then. Still am.

When you invited that person to be the COB of the ECNC thread, did you have a long position in ECNC?

Would you be willing to put the Club Fatt site back up for all to see?

That's the whole point. To keep people from trying to tie me to the other BS that goes on in the BB world. Again, everything is on SI.


If it’s all on SI, but conveniently collected on Club Fatt in one place, why not leave both of them up? On the one hand, you say you took it down to try to keep people from tying you to BS. On the other hand, you say the info exists elsewhere, such as SI or RB. On the third hand, you say you have nothing to hide. Which hand is on top?

You are more than welcome to, OMD. But make sure you post the entire story of what happened.

I don’t know anything close to the entire story, Matt. I do know only what I have already posted. That took me maybe ten minutes to find. And one poster on SI, I think it was Lola, said in your defense that you turned against ECNC when you did additional DD. You yourself also said to me that you turned on the company when you found out some bad stuff about it. That’s all well and good. But the “whole story” would also include, as an essential ingredient, the timing of all your positions on ECNC, in both directions. And the timing of the COB’s positions as well. And those of any other interested party in your club or anyone with an interest in your current site. All of those things, and more, would go into the “whole story.” It might fill a book. I can’t write it right now because the information is not available to me. You can write it, I suppose, if you care to. Or maybe somebody else will step forward to do it, I don’t know.

A lack of free speech on your site in this context troubles me. It really does. If you care to explain further, I am sure there will be those interested to hear it.

Regards,

OMD