There is a MAJOR difference as you know from a positive chart and a negative one. i can safely say that at this point they are almost all negative at this point with one or tow execeptions. i am getting the starts to turns. now since these are weekly charts, they dont mean much until the end of the week. this is kind of like an early warning system for a reversal of the markets. could always undue the good that is starting and head down, but gets me ready. hope this helps to define what i mean by showing signs of reversing. steve