In fact it IS nothing ... I left you a link on the LLE* site (in response to your post there) ... but in the spirit of full DD, I'll put the link here as well ... The is NO link between Mr. Moy and any problems that the other company had, which turned out to be no problems at all ... I agree that each of us needs to do our on DD, but don't mislead people. Mr. Moy involvement here would be a very positive thing for BONZ!