nobody3 stop living in the past we are talking about the 1st Qtr 2012. last year we know why they were not profitable for many reasons to include NDEP haulting their production until they corrected the GeoTube liners. Liners by the way NDEP had approved for use earlier. PCFG was really never in full production for the 3rd or 4th Qtr of 2011. 1st Qtr 2012 will tell us if they were in full production from Jan 1st to March 31st.