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Cassandra

02/09/03 8:27 PM

#20440 RE: Mattu #20406

Matt: I think your idea is excellent as long as it is not portrayed as an objective board. That was the point of the message I posted on RB earlier today.

Let the cult have their totally censored board, just make sure that everyone who is exposed to it knows that is censored with a pro-EDIG point of view.

This will reduce your administrative burden and allow the cult members to feel they are in control of their destiny.

You might want to have another public discussion board that is open to all points of view, but that might cause your EDIG faithful to move their camp to Agoracom.

It's up to you, but from what I see on that board, your head will hurt a lot less if you allow them to have their utopia board. They can restrict themselves by choice to only hearing the good (allowing a few occasional non-serious barbs at management).

Those who want to know the bad and the ugly can always check in at RN, where, admittedly, the slant has moved against the opinion that EDIG stock is a good "investment."

As I said before, Good Luck! You're dealing with a fanatic group.

~Cassandra
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QuakerState

02/09/03 9:16 PM

#20460 RE: Mattu #20406

<<I'd like to try, for a 3 month period, to allow a "controlled" board.>>

What a laugh that is...(g).....you control every board the way it is now!
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Bob Zumbrunnen

02/10/03 10:00 AM

#20488 RE: Mattu #20406

Bob, out of curiosity, where did we ever get with the discussion of allowing boards where people could exclude people or basically run it however they wanted?

Where we left it is that it was trumped by the one-board-per-stock rule. We both agreed that such a level of control in the only allowable board on a given subject was inappropriate and would eventually be used manipulatively.

Ok, I have an idea that I'd like to try, that we've never done. I'd like to try, for a 3 month period, to allow a "controlled" board. Let's call it "e.Digital Controlled (EDIG)" -- where, I am totally hands-off as the Admin.

I'm already pretty much against that idea. It'd become a manip-fest. Quickly. Even if another board existed where that wasn't possible, it'd be a black eye for the site to have an agoracom-like board here.

I think the CoB model works only if you have ultimate responsibility for all deletions.

If it ticks off a group so badly that they move to agoracom.com, suits me. I haven't really had any dealings with this "group" but the comment I read yesterday that was pretty much "I was going to subscribe, but you don't boot bashers, so I won't.", with its implied "Boot bashers and we'll pay you" already made me less than kindly disposed toward this group, even though that sentiment was expressed by only one person, as far as I know.

My gamble? The main EDIG one, that I run.

Bob, what do you think? If you agree to a trial run, I'll agree to it.


And if that's not the case? If the other board is stronger? It'll have set a precedent we'll have to follow.

As someone else brought up, perhaps such a test would be a little easier to swallow with a forced inclusion in the header stating not only that the moderators can delete and exclude at will, but giving the link to the board in which that won't happen.

But even with that, it'd take a lot of convincing to get me to want to do that even on a trial basis.

And for each person who suggests we should allow uninhibited manipulation because we'd make more money by doing so (we wouldn't, but that's beside the point), it'd take 10 people offering really good reasons to balance that out.

Credibility is everything when it comes to sites like this. It's not the top thing. It's the *only* thing. Once that's established, other things can be added to the list of what's important.

And anything that could endanger our credibility and our growing reputation as a serious, civil site, shouldn't be reasoned with. It should be shown the door.

My suggestion: If inappropriate deletions are rampant, replace the moderators with yourself. If such a move results in all those people moving to another site, so be it. Less work for the servers.