arizona1 -- this is a very systematic and very determined, and absolutely classic, Big Lie operation, a clearly fascist one, one that already clearly ranks historically, that we face -- these folks, however foolish or whatever they or their followers may ever appear to us, know exactly what they're doing and are deadly serious about winning the power they seek precisely via this Big Lie operation -- all of us need to talk back and keep on talking back, organize, persuade all we can, contribute if we can, and VOTE
whether or not all or even most of us on our side are fully aware of it, or even want to think about it in such terms, we are in fact in a fight for our lives
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