>No, Jar, Actually I agree with what you say. Our ideological difference regards "saved".
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Very good. Do you accept the Premise/Problem construct I've been suggesting? (appended for reference)
If so, we can discuss our differences regarding "salvation", which I define as the solution to the Problem posed.
Btw, thanks for your "The Nature of God" post. It is very close to my belief, but does have a couple minor misconceptions about Christianity. If you agree with that description of God, hopefully you will find my Premise/Problem construction is compatible with that. (I'll be offline until tomorrow)
First - God exists. I must humbly submit to His commands.
Second - God is completely holy, good, clean, and pure.
Third - I am not holy and pure because I refuse to perfectly follow His commands. I have separated myself from God.
Fourth - God is just. Justice requires disobedience be punished.
Problem: How can I escape God's punishment, yet justice be preserved?