Well. You said spyder wasn't released. Proof? We have one posters supposed conversation with Fong. NASDAQ ceo taking phone calls.. ok.. I'll bite. Not discrediting the said poster's conversations... I could come on or any one of us.. and say stuff.. and we'd not know if it was true or not. PR, 8k, 10k, 10q, or verifiable DD or it didn't happen.. is always my stance. I've been burned a few times.