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02/12/12 10:47 AM

#164988 RE: GWMAN #164981

Q1: The Company’s CEO designed further enhancements to the P2O processor in early 2011, including two columns supporting 4 catalyst trays. In addition, he added significant technology to guarantee fuel quality, along with installing an inline fuel additive injection system on both heavy and light fuel condensing systems. He has also engineered a hot-tap residue removal process. Quality control includes two columns for control and specificity of fuel fractions, a cyclone (particulate removal in vapor), fuel filters (particulate removal in liquid), and a centrifuge (additional redundant particulate trap), as well as column enhancements to guarantee particulate free fuel. Fuel additives are injected inline while fuel is being produced to increase their effectiveness. The new residue removal system works while the processor is running, so the reactor does not have to be cooled down or stopped to remove residue.

Q2: During the second quarter of 2011, the Company built a fully equipped fuel testing laboratory at the Niagara Falls, NY site to facilitate instant certification of fuel products. The P2O processor is capable of producing #6 fuel, #2 fuel, diesel, and light naphtha. The Plastic2Oil processor has been tuned to reduce naphtha production to less than 2% because the market price for naphtha is significantly less compared to #2 or #6 fuel and therefore the Company does not intend to make Naptha contracts a priority. The Company’s management has invested much time, testing, and production efforts towards large companies to execute significant contracts such as RockTenn. During the first quarter of 2011 the processor was primarily used to test feedstock from large sources of free waste plastic in order to pass "Cradle to Grave" audits from feedstock to end user fuel. During the second quarter of 2011 the Company designed and engineered a premelt loader for the Plastic2Oil processor to eliminate handling, shredding, and bagging of waste plastic. During the modularization of the processor, the CEO was able to eliminate the off gas compression system in favor of a simplified low-cost off gas handling rack (4’ x 4’ x 4’) for better control and at 1/5 of the cost. The cost savings through modularization has been used to offset the cost of the premelt loader.

Q3: The Company successfully designed, engineered and fabricated a plastic premelt system. The premelt system is now capable of accepting mixed, un-shredded plastics in addition to plastics that are comingled with various metals. The premelt system operates from the waste heat of the original P2O reactor system and has the ability to separate the comingled metals from the plastic. This capability became especially critical for processing RockTenn material such as raggertail, as well as other large bales of compacted plastic. The raggertail was demonstrated to be successfully processed during a visit by RockTenn representatives and will significantly increase process efficiency at RockTenn sites, as well as alleviating a great deal of sorting efforts from many of the Company’s current and future plastic feedstock suppliers. In addition to the completion of the premelt system, the Company further enhanced the New York processor by installing Low Nox (Nitrogen Oxide) burners. This addition will further reduce emissions and was important when seeking permit exemptions in other States. This improvement enabled the Company to seek an air permit exemption in another State, eliminating many months of extra work and cost.
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Estimated_Prophet

02/12/12 11:55 AM

#165008 RE: GWMAN #164981

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Surprised that for someone who has been here this long still thinks such aggressive thoughts. We haven't heard if processor 2 is done yet. Why is it that everyone thinks that JBI has the means to build multiple processors at one time? I just don't see the logic in that, and the precedent isn't there. As of a little over a month ago, they still didn't have all the permits for the RKT site. It should be pretty clear that the RKT site is going to take a while longer. Until they finish all three processors in Niagara, I don't see JBI having the manpower or the tools, equipment, infrastructure, etc. to be in two places at once, yet.

Everyone seems to be setting themselves up for this big failure of expectations versus reality, when it really shouldn't be that way. I am just very surprised that people still do this after as many times as the aggressive projection has been missed.

If we assume the permit update doubled the production limits, then 2 machines is like 4. CFP should easily be obtained with 2 processors now. All the market is really looking for, at this stage, is consistent fuel production and sales that proves the business model, IMO. It's not so much about an additional processor or mass expansion, yet. Just prove one, or prove you can obtain CFP, if the machines are so great.

Hope I'm wrong about some of the goals and time lines here, but it shouldn't matter for the PPS. If you prove 1, or reach CFP, I would think the stock would be trading closer to $5. 3 processors, and RKT coming online within a month or two could possibly have us much higher than that.

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buenokite

02/12/12 12:49 PM

#165013 RE: GWMAN #164981

So on one hand you think:

My hunch is processors 2 and 3 are up and running



But on the other hand you said Q1 revenue could be less than $700k which is one processor running at about 70% of the OLD regulatory capacity. How do you define "up and running"?

It has been an ongoing theme of this company initiated by JB himself to tell grand tales that have no support when it is time to report business metrics. BTW that is a characteristic of a scam.
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capital gain

02/12/12 2:24 PM

#165028 RE: GWMAN #164981

Well we know it was finished in early Dec, when the stack test was carried out.

GLTA.

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Florinda

02/12/12 3:56 PM

#165037 RE: GWMAN #164981

"my end of March projection is based on the belief that completing processors 2 and 3 is not contingent on something happening in the new building. If I am wrong about that, and having the new building functional for some reason is a necessity before processors 2 and 3 can be built-out, then even my March is wrong and it could be more like May sometime."--GWMAN

From Q3 page 23:

"The Company plans to move its fabrication unit from the existing facility to the new building shortly after construction is complete."

If they plan to move their existing facility "to" the new building when it is completed, then it seems they must still presently have the capacity to work on processors despite the new building not being fully up and running. It's of course possible that what they meant by "existing facility" was a make-shift shop within the same building the first processor is set up in. For some reason I thought they had moved this "unit" to the machine shop they were intending to buy--Q2 page 25:

"The Company is purchasing a machine shop a few minutes from the Plastic2Oil factory so that additional processor assembly and work can occur while the Plastic2Oil processor(s) operate." 8/22/2011

But even if they did not make such a move, wherever the "existing facility" is, they clearly imply that it as a functioning "unit." So it seems at the very least they have the capacity to continue working on new processors even if they have to periodically stop such work to maintain safety standards while running the first processor.

If we're lucky, the NYDEC's decision to allow JBI to increase its through-put levels will constitute a material bit of news and therefore be PRed tomorrow. If not, then Q4 numbers will be out, what, in 5 weeks? One way or another, it won't be long before another layer of obscruity is lifted.