Qcom is green right now, and that's all I care about, really. I can agree that their hype has actually worked to cloud the crowds view of what is one of our greatest tech companies. For example, it was mercilessly slammed on CNBS in the initial part of the dot com collapse, as if it were a dot com. Anyway, in my simple view of the world, I think of Nok as Dell and Qcom as INTC