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chipdesigner

07/12/05 1:49 PM

#19028 RE: SmallPops #19026

Smallpops, about what one would expect from a dirtbag operation like Intel. Can't compete on the merits? Cheat, illegal or not.



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morrowinder

07/12/05 2:11 PM

#19029 RE: SmallPops #19026

Smallpops: AMD can use any compiler it wants to...

Pathscale is referred to quite frequently on the amd board. And Microsoft makes a compiler too? Are you saying that Intel has a monopoly on compilers now? Do you think its unacceptable to make a compiler that is optimized for intel products???

In fact don't most droids argue that the intel compiler is just used for SPEC? If so then why would AMD care:)

Above and beyond that, the compiler works fine for the AMD product. They certainly aren't going to optimize for AMD.


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SemiconEng

07/12/05 2:16 PM

#19031 RE: SmallPops #19026

maybe it is issues like this, that led AMD to believe
Intel was trying to handicap them:



I notice the terms he uses in his opinion, is that he finds it "Not acceptable". That may be so, in his opinion, but the current question is not whether an individual finds intel's practices "acceptable" or not, but rather, are they illegal? BTW, I think I already know your opinion on that one, so I'm just going to say that OK with letting the courts decide.
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smooth2o

07/12/05 3:15 PM

#19040 RE: SmallPops #19026

I'm sure AMD could "pay" Intel to have their stuff incorporated.... oops! Sorry, I forgot. AMD doesn't "pay" anyone including the German gov't. AMD only "gets", through lawsuits, loans, and shareholders.

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Tenchu

07/13/05 12:05 AM

#19050 RE: SmallPops #19026

SmallPops, so an old version of a compiler designed by Intel looks for an Intel processor before doing certain optimizations. Intel already fixed this in their latest compilers, which have been out for some time.

Nothing wrong with this, though I can see the tin foil hat crowd coming up with more conspiracy theories that happen to fit the facts.

Tenchu