Replies to post #114020 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[ergo sum]

That tradition has no real explanation. Creation is either flawed, or, something exists which was not created. The crux of salvation is based on redemption from evil, if you will, something that God created as a kind of Kafkaesk Trial.

[zitboy_rev_11_3]

one third of the angels rebelled against God and sin.

technically yes they did, but in reality, the vast majority of them were deceived

And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. (rev 12:9)

first, how many different opinions regarding who the dragon is are out there in the christian world?....."oh, it's china, or it's etc...".........there it is right there, the dragon is who it states it is......let the bible interpret itself

remember, lucifer was a created being perfect in all his ways, and amongst the angelic "grunts and peons", the concept and reality that lucifer could even entertain sinning, let alone actually commit sin, was so far removed from their consciousness, that they simply followed (like they had done for millions upon millions of years) without a second thought........sad to say, but deception, especially self-deception, is insidious

[hap0206]

here you go -- ergo/mslft -- gods work in progress -- creating a new solar system where there will be good things happening and bad things happening -- the future superior beings will sort out what will be called good and what will be called evil and god will bless them
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Explanation: Fomalhaut (sounds like "foam-a-lot") is a bright, young, star, a mere 25 light-year trip from planet Earth in the direction of the constellation Piscis Austrinus. Earlier infrared observations identified a torus of cold material surrounding the nearby star but the panels above detail the sharpest ever visible light-image of Fomalhaut's dusty debris ring, recorded by the Hubble Space Telescope's ACS camera. Overwhelming glare from the star is masked by an occulting disk in the camera's coronagraph. The off-center ring with a sharp inner boundary is taken to be strong evidence of a massive planet orbiting far from Fomalhaut, shaping and maintaining the ring's inner edge. Starting 133 astronomical units (Earth-Sun distances) from Fomalhaut, the dusty ring itself is likely a larger, younger analog of our own Kuiper Belt - the solar system's outer reservoir of icy bodies.