No doubt about TKDN not helping RYUN, the bottom fell out of that pos and I called it. I guess people that were hurt by TKDN are weary and leary of these MMA/UFC affiliated stocks and it is carrying over here.I guess the word is out. I say we go much lower before Feb 2012, there will be very good opportunities for people that missed the boat in June. Then we sit and wait until the apparel hits the shelves, if the consumer buys/likes the quality/style and they are pumping out large numbers who knows how high this goes...The end of 2012 we will have a much better idea of what RYU will do.