Seton,it's called "PACIFIC" stock transfer because guess why? It's on the pacific coast....!!! yes and they open at 9am 5 days aweek ....pacific time...! they answer the phone promptly and courteously....and claim to tell you the exact OS as of close the previoius day....! maybe you dialed the wrong number....! Hope that helps....10-Z or as TR most humorously suggested you could just keep guessing...it's ever so much more entertaining...and makes it a hecka lot easier to "prove" your point..!