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Mariner*

06/24/05 7:39 PM

#112644 RE: Mariner* #112643

A news story I’m waiting to see:

Karl Rove Apologizes for 9/11 Remarks -- Weeps Like a Baby While Asking Liberals, 9/11 Widows, and Therapists for Forgiveness...

The Huffington Post
Wednesday, June 29, 2005; 9:55 am

A week after claiming that liberals responded inappropriately to the 9/11 attacks, deputy White House chief of staff Karl Rove apologized at an emotion-filled Rose Garden press conference.

“Some may believe that my remarks crossed the line,” said the man the president affectionately calls “Turd Blossom," biting his lip and fighting back tears. “To them I extend my heartfelt apologies."

Rove said that while he actually did mean to exploit the 9/11 attacks for “political, opportunistic purposes," just as his critics have claimed, and wasn’t really sorry that he had done so, he decided to apologize because “everyone else was doing it… and I didn’t want to be left out -- like I always was in high school.”

On the road still trying to drum up support for his plan to privatize everything, President Bush called Rove’s apology “an honorable step toward placating the liberal media attack dogs.”

Rove’s Rose Garden mea culpa came a week after the man known as Bush’s Brain gave a speech to the Conservative Party of New York State in which he said: “Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.”

The comments drew widespread criticism from Democrats -- many of whom demanded an apology. “Karl Rove doesn’t owe me an apology,” said John Kerry. “He owes the country an apology.”

Nevertheless the rotund Bush advisor insisted on specifically apologizing to Kerry along with everybody else.

Here is Rove’s apology in its entirety (any similarity to Dick Durbin’s apology is strictly intentional):

“More than most people, a cagey political operative lives by his words. Words are the coin of the realm in our profession. Occasionally, words will fail us, and occasionally we will fail words. And every now and then we will actually use the word “fail” -- but never in relation to the war in Iraq. On June the 22nd, I took to the podium at a partisan political event and raised my genuine, heartfelt concerns about how some Americans not of the conservative persuasion reacted to the events of 9/11. I raised legitimate concerns that others have raised, including any number of AM radio hosts and Fox News commentators. During this speech, on my own, in my own words, I brought up 9/11 and Al Jazeera and Dick Durbin, and used the phrases “motives of liberals” and “putting America’s men and women in uniform in greater danger” in connection to each other. I’ve since come to understand that this might not have been the brightest choice of words -- that some may believe my remarks crossed the line. To them, I extend my heartfelt apologies. There’s usually a quote from Abraham Lincoln that you can turn to in moments like this. But Dick Durbin already used the one I wanted to use… and I’m saving the other good ones for Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, and all the other liberal Democrats my fellow Republicans have demanded apologies from. I’d also like to apologize to John Kerry… just because.”

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld who had earlier gone on Fox News Radio and compared Durbin’s Guantanamo comments to Jane Fonda calling U.S. soldiers war criminals during a visit to North Vietnam in 1972, had no comment on either Rove’s 9/11 remarks or his apology.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/arianna-huffington/this-just-in-rove-apolo_3109.html

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PegnVA

06/24/05 8:01 PM

#112650 RE: Mariner* #112643

That's exactly what it's all about - never answer your critics, just shoot the messenger. The GWB admin has gotten away with this for 6yrs, but the tide is turning.

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harrypothead

06/24/05 9:58 PM

#112666 RE: Mariner* #112643

The Lies of War Can No Longer Be Ignored By the Press

By Randolph T. Holhut

www.OpEdNews.com

DUMMERSTON, Vt. - Is the tide finally turning?
Americans are now starting to learn what was in the Downing Street Memos. The memos provide confirmation for what those who opposed the war
against Iraq knew from the start: the Bush administration wanted to invade Iraq even before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and the White House was
simply looking for enough rhetorical fig leaves to cover their naked aggression.

The Associated Press, the primary source of news for most of America's print and broadcast media, is finally writing about the seven memos, which are basically minutes of cabinet meetings held by the Blair government after meeting with their U.S. counterparts in 2002. While others have reported upon the memos, for most newspapers it's not news until the AP reports upon it..

Republicans who once supported the invasion of Iraq are starting to have second thoughts. They see President Bush's approval ratings in freefall and see that Americans no long have the stomach for an occupation that could last for decades, as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice recently said.

The Army is scrambling for new recruits. The baby boomers who control the media may make fun of how brain-dead "Generation Y" is, but today's young people are smart enough to know that it is not worth getting
their limbs blown off to make rich corporations richer.
It's looking like historian Arthur Schlesinger's prediction is coming true. He recently said that what Korea was to Harry Truman and Vietnam was to Lyndon Johnson, Iraq will be to George W. Bush. Both Truman and Johnson's presidencies foundered and eventually fell apart over Korea and Vietnam, respectively. The public had no stomach for those wars once it became clear that they were bloody stalemates at best and tragic wastes of
blood and treasure at worst.

We have now reached that point in Iraq. The deceptions and lies used to get us into that quagmire have been crystal clear to anyone who was paying attention over the past four years. The trouble was, most people -
including the corporate press - weren't paying attention.

The Washington Post and The New York Times are all saying that the Downing Street Memos are old news. So were the Pentagon Papers, but that didn't stop these papers from printing excerpts back in 1971, when we still had an adversarial and independent press.
Both papers ran the Bush administration's rationales for invading Iraq prominently on Page One, day after day.

Dissenting opinions were buried on the inside pages. And the rest of the big print and broadcast
news organizations decided early on that critical reporting of the Bush administration's motives was beyond the accepted realm of debate. As every
journalist eventually finds out, attacking conservatives usually means the end of your career in journalism. Few reporters in the corporate press have lost their jobs for ripping liberals.

But the Downing Street Memos aren't really old news, any more than the Pentagon Papers were old news. Both provide a glimpse into the decision-making process and show the lies and distortions that governments inevitably employ to support a war.

Over the past few weeks, we've learned the following:
- According to the Times of London, British and American warplanes increased the number and intensity of bombing raids on Iraq beginning in
May 2002. The idea was to provoke Saddam Hussein into retaliation and provide a pretext for a U.S. invasion. Saddam never retaliated, but the raids, aimed at air defense and communications sites, made the "shock and awe" raids, when the war began in March 2003, that much easier.

- The British government believed the evidence justifying an invasion of Iraq was flimsy and could constitute a violation of international law. They were also concerned that the Bush administration gave little thought to post-war planning. "The U.S. government's military planning for action against Iraq is proceeding apace," stated a July 21, 2002, briefing paper. "But as yet, it lacks a political framework. ... A post-war occupation of Iraq could lead to a protracted and costly nation building exercise." The Bush administration instead focused on coming up with a plan that would be seen as legal under international law.

- The Bush administration was obsessed with what it called "regime change" in Iraq from the day it took office. The Blair government believed that, according to a memo written by Blair political adviser Peter Ricketts
to Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, arguing for regime change in Iraq alone "does not stack up. It sounds like a grudge match between Bush and Saddam."

- The White House maintained the fiction right up until March 2003 that it tried to avoid war. We now know that preliminary planning for an Iraq invasion began in November 2001 and that by February 2002, according
to the Knight Ridder News Service, President Bush had decided in principle to overthrow Saddam and ordered "a combination of military, diplomatic and covert steps" to achieve that goal.

All the whistleblowers in the Bush administration - Richard Clarke, Joseph Wilson and others - turned out to be right. Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and there was no Iraqi link to the Sept. 11 attacks. Yet
these fictions still get trotted out by defenders of the war.

Invading Iraq was never a last-resort option. It was the plan all along. And, as the British memos show, the Bush administration was shaping, doctoring and fabricating the intelligence it used to justify the war. Just
imagine what the Bush meeting summaries, if any are still in existence, might reveal.

Does the truth not matter on a such a fundamental issue as committing a nation to a war of choice that was sold to Americans as a war of necessity? Is the growing evidence that the Bush administration lied about almost every aspect of the Iraq invasion not troubling?
Those are questions that need answers now.

Randolph T. Holhut has been a journalist in New England for more than 20 years. He edited "The George Seldes Reader" (Barricade Books). He
can be reached at randyholhut@yahoo.com.


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callsandputs

06/25/05 11:11 AM

#112694 RE: Mariner* #112643

Just Another Republican Lie ?
Karl Rove.

Has he ever been married ?

Does he have any children ?

Does he even have a girl friend ?

Has he ever been serious with a female ?

What was Rove's relation with Jeff Gannon ?