I know you asked Jack this question and I know Jack will answer it for you but if it's OK with you I'd like to get in my 2 cents. The second most important thing to remember here is that Telvue is a real company with real products and they do business the old fashioned way. They sell their wares in the hope of making a profit. They are in the fastest moving business on earth. The business of Technology. They have missed the boat and have put everything back into research and development where making a profit is concerned . It's been easy for them because our major share holder is a billionaire and has asked them to stay on the top of technology. There are only 8 million shares in the float and no one ever sells Telvue. The people who own it , with a very small exception, are here for the haul. The secret here is to buy as cheaply as you can and hold on to what you have. I will answer any question quickly if you will remember I have a sick wife who need me. Y ou may get answers from me at 3 in the morning after cleanings beds but I will answer as honostly as I can. One last thing for you to remember. We do have debt. We think of it as tax write offs. The most important thing is no one ever sells TEVE.