your wrong, dean realized he couldnt win as independent last time, although he might of i think.. he worked tirelessly for shitpuke kerry and what does he get?? he has tried to work witihn the dem party.....im encouraging him to bolt party., dem party is useless...dean is a brilliant man, was was against the damn war, and was the only soul of any notareity to oppose bush and he was atacked by dems in the primaries..and the media...now he attacks bush justafiably and the dems knock him again..dean iraq view is not new he said in debates we cant just pull out now....it doesnt mean he suports the war or occupation.....d oyou want biden or edwards or kerry...that didnt work did it...everythig dean said has come true..now i think dean could win as independent....