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Nadendla

07/09/11 12:07 PM

#8772 RE: jammerr #8771

Manipulation here is beyond doubt and if you are 1 month old here ,then you must have already seen the L2 action where the price if it goes up is walked down very obviously!!.Theories are..shorts,MM's,Hired Hedge Funds by Rival companies or just sometimes maybe some on the board who are strong hands and would like at to add more at cheaper prices and might even be encouraging the slide down by nudging it with small hits on the bids!.
It is never a bad thing to load the cheaps..but it would be a very good idea if after loading up on the low PPS ,if effort is taken to slap the asks eod to take it up!..also many a time the difference between the bid and ask is not much and its always better to hit the asks instead of waiting at the bids..it does not cost much to buy at the ask (almost like buying at bid..ex:bid@0.016..ask 0.0165)..wherein this is a sensible way of loading plus pushing steadily the PPS!
If everyone waits at the bids instead of going for the asks too..then we will be in trouble ..and we would be more so if we become more greedy nudging into the bids for some more cheaper shares ...which fits in perfectly with any kind of manipulations and their manipulators who clearly proved that their job is to contain the PPS!...This kinda starts a negative chain reaction which can only be neutralized by power news from the company ..which will get in new investors!.
simply and clearly if there is no big difference between bids and asks and if we want the PPS to climb up...then hitting the asks is what is logically suggestible .. else we will be mentally tormented ..for after you give up sitting at the bids and go for asks..there might be somebody else who might think like you and realise later..sorta like a wrong kind of action!
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cheyenne1

07/09/11 12:15 PM

#8773 RE: jammerr #8771

Your spot on in asking. I also think you might be a long lost cousin so you can donate several thousand shares to my cause.Just kidding, great position.

If you look at my posts i always refer to this as building a solid foundation phase and the tremendous headstart Howard has from his years with this one product, not moving all over the board with different dreams..Time waiting in my opinion is the largest factor in this sort of up and down neautral stage we are in. Always there is some off the wall stuff going on but dont think its the key.It will take double the volume to get double the pps as more phases to roll into place..I think for me that has a strong position as you do yourself,, you sort of need to see that to help validate yourself that you have made good decisions getting in at different PPS. For me this is for affirmation to stay the course,,,not sell off cause of uptick.

So im with you that this phase is just that ,,a building phase and we should get in at any point funds will allow as investors that are seeking to get on board and stay there.. To me a huge key is promote investors to build and stay long.

Hope you hang around the board and comment. Have a great weekend
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Bucks4Buckeyes

07/09/11 2:00 PM

#8783 RE: jammerr #8771

JAMMERR, welcome to the fun here!

IMO, everyone has their favorite conspiracy theories about manipulation:
The MM's are crooks
The company is diluting
Hedgefunds are pushing price down
Bayer is trying to derail PHAR
A millionaire buyer is trying to get more shares cheaper

It is all speculation.

Since PHAR started up only a few months ago, none of us can really be considered 'old-timers' here. But those of us who have been in for a while were bid-whacked badly by a crew who front-loaded and then dumped the price down, bragging about it on their way out.

Some of us had bought in an decent position in the .03's and was just watching this new stock move nicely as a healthy stock when that happened.

After that..the real momentum of this gem was lost and now we are waiting for solid news to help push this back to where many of us believe it should be.

The problem is, since we know actual revenues won't be coming in for about a year, most filings may not make this really jump like many feel it should because they most likely will not show anything substantial.

Also, many who were here then put most everything they had in then, so they haven't been able to average down. Luckily, I have been able to buy more 'discounted' shares.

So, it is quite possible that it is simply hystrionics or it could be some weird things going on. Most likely, many here still are stinging from how they felt 'violated' by some crude dudes. So, it is easy to read into L2 what someone thinks is happening. Actually, we all just need to move on - but it's hard to do when some here are looking at their investment down by 1/2.

I have posted many times here that the best traders are emotionless traders. It is hard here for me to be emotionless, because I really am sold on the CEO and the future product.

But, without emotion, I would want PHAR out of the pinks, I think it would add to their legitimacy and transparency and may attract some more buyers.

Also, I think it has been trading like a normal penny stock would in the past month and a half that does not have a current revenue stream - but definitely not like I WANT it to!

IMO, the more we get shares in stronger hands, the easier this will move. It has a low float and incredible potential. We may just move on the technicals alone. But, IMO, when we move, I think it will move quickly.

BTW, one of the nice side-benefits is that there are some really nice people here. And I am glad I have made their acquaintances.

All The Best
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TheFinalCD

07/09/11 2:33 PM

#8788 RE: jammerr #8771

heck for investors of phar, that buy now whether avg down or just buying...its great but to those that bought .03-.05, we are very understandably upset... and want the PPS to be at least at book values...at least PAR value....



There is no real reason why it shouldnt...

many of us feel with a 92m float and $50M $32M(filed) in assets
that we should be trading min those values... .03-.05 min*

some stocks trade multiples of assets or earnings... x1-x2-x2-x4

we just want our fair shake at what we think is fair...

We have seen a very transparent company so phar, and one that has a plan, and has made serious steps towards their goals...

I truely believe, the real winners here will be the ones that can last when the product hits the market...

Thats my opinion

Steve