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cosmoworld7

05/25/05 12:10 PM

#35076 RE: iamshazzam #35075

Shazz, thanks for the clarification. I agree with you that its unfair to 'bash' a stock if your sole motive and reason is to hurt existing investors or if you are just trying to seek retribution. I also don’t buy the theory that they are here to save others (although after being hurt, some people are inclined to initially point out the pitfall to others). However, its also just as wrong to relentlessly 'hype' a stock (not you) in order to lure or tempt someone into an investment (perhaps somebody is new to investing and they dont understand the 'games' that are being playing on these boards). That could cause someone to lose a lot of money and make uninformed decisions. I know most people dont buy/sell based on whats posted on a message board, but some people DO in fact do this, and its clearly not fair to them (regardless if they are naive enough to do such a thing).

Some people may think that you are promoting NV, simply because it seems that you never want to acknowledge their failures. Yes, they should be praised when they do something successful or achieve a milestone. However, failure should also be pointed out to remain fully objective in your Due Diligence process. Meticulous thought must be separated from emotions, desires and wishes – only then rational decisions can be made – especially in the shark infested waters of OTC investing.

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spokeshave

05/25/05 7:40 PM

#35091 RE: iamshazzam #35075

iamshazzam: Re: Quite the contrary, I have only said that I think it is very unfair to purposefully attempt to hurt the share price of a stock...

Life's not fair. I suggest that you get over that. Also, the "basher" posts here are not about you. You need to get over yourself.

The posts by the people you call "bashers" contain facts about the incredibly poor performance of the company. If they (we?) post something that you believe to be incorrect, you are certainly free to challenge them. If posting facts about the company will hurt the share price, well, then it is not much of an investment, now is it?

I think you position on this is incredibly hypocritical and selfish. We post facts about the company. You seem to want these facts stifled so they do not hurt *your* investment, while the company engages in sleazy pump schemes with misleading PRs to attract new investors. You are, then, wanting us to be quiet about the truth, so new investors can get suckered into buying, with the hope that it will cause the value of your investment to rise.

I don't know how guys like you sleep at night.

As for MSFT, they did notify shareholders when they were compelled to by regulation, but not in every case and lots of folks lost bucks because of it.

LOL. I have to admit that I never get tired of laughing at these lame attempts to excuse NVEI's dismal failures by pointing to the odd few failures of the single most successful company in the world.

I will be the first to admit that once NVEI has earned their first $20 billion, I will be much less critical of them if they miss a timeline. However, considering that NVEI has *never* met a timeline, missing the deadline for proxy statements for a June SHM is just another in a long string of failures without a *single* success.

I would say that MSFT has *earned* the benefit of the doubt. NVEI has not.