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Yak

06/21/11 4:07 PM

#25124 RE: richclaire2020 #25122

Ed I see your point. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't with some on this board though.



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ZincFinger

06/21/11 4:16 PM

#25125 RE: richclaire2020 #25122

You do not have to be sure of your final goal to be sure of an intermediate step.

As discussed many times (again, you really do need to real "all the words", Eddie) SIAL includes a test kit with all sets of zinc fingers (which can be confirmed by a visit to their website
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/life-science.html
that can be used to test not only that the genetic modifications have been made, but also that they were inserted *into*the*correct*site* and within 48 hours of completing the insertions.

That is about as sure as you can get. The successful insertion is a highly significant step and important news on its own that fully merits a PR.

Since when do companies only release PRs when they have reached their final objective?

As for you "not being able to rely on what he [Kim] says" I would submit that is probably a direct consequence of your not wanting to "read all the words" and therefore having expectations that simply don't fit with what was actually said. Without getting all the relevant details it is very easy to make false deductions or assumptions leading to unrealistic expectations as to how events can or may unfold.

So, since YOU brought it up, how about a few examples of the "9 or of 10 times" when you were "not able to rely on something he said"

From what I've seen everything he's said has been highly accurate.

Kim is not responsible for faulty deductions that you may make, just for what he actually says, OK?

So put up or shut up.
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mfefree

06/21/11 4:54 PM

#25136 RE: richclaire2020 #25122

we were all looking for some kind of update in the cc and that is what he did. He gave an aproximate time line for commercialization and told us what is happening with the ZFs. If he truly wants to run off the competition, then I think he will release news as it occurs. It seems to me that time delays would encourage competition to keep trying. I would look for confirmation of 98% spider's silk as soon as he himself is certain that we have it. What they are doing with the ZFs is still research. It has never been done before to this extent on silkworms; therefore, doing it on the first try might be expecting too much. But when it is done, perhaps he will say that N.D. has confirmed and they have sent off for independant confirmation. That would certainly discourage me if I was competing, and it would also give the pps a boost a few weeks in advance, and then another boost with independant confirmation.