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kidnova

05/04/11 10:53 AM

#112130 RE: scon #112129

They will post retail locations where their products are
sold on their snazzy website like they say on the website,
but most people will buy on the internet from thirstmonger.com
as most 20-30 year old people do everything they possibly can
online instead of going to a store or the post-office and
will take advantage of free-shipping.



I have never met anybody, regardless of age, that buys drinks online. The rest of your arguments are a matter of opinion, but this one is pure fallacy.
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OlafKjelldsen

05/04/11 3:36 PM

#112169 RE: scon #112129

1. BBDA released a PR saying there would be product placement
in movies, music videos, etc. A can of Koma Unwind showed
up in a Jennifer Lopez music video, proof that that PR was
not a lie, a scam, a share selling ploy but a new reality
that whatsoever they PR, that will they also do.


What a load of crap.

There is absolutely nothing which identifies the PR about product placement or even the product placement itself as not being a share selling ploy. There is also nothing at all which defines everything this company PRs going forward as as given.

You said this represents a "new reality", but I totally disagree and I will tell you exactly why, in my opinion, nothing has changed.

Regardless of a person's opinion of NASCAR, it's a 'real' thing. Every bit as 'real' as Jennifer Lopez and her music video.

Regardless of whether or not you think the racing expenditures were a smart marketing approach for this company, they PRed the NASCAR involvement and for the most part followed through with what they said they'd do. In that way, it is no different than PRing the Jennifer Lopez association. To a lot of people, a NASCAR truck finishing 10th at Daytona is every bit as big a deal as seeing a can in the new JLo video.

Now look back over the last two years during which NASCAR was PRed and the PRs turned out to be true. During that time, no intellectually honest person can look at what happened and not clearly identify this as anything but a share selling scam. Billions of shares sold and practiaclly no product. There were also plenty of now-obviously phony PRs issued during those years about distribution and other things that turned out to be untrue.

So it seems that issuing a PR about a show business involvement for Bebevco, then having that event actually come to pass, has been happening all along. There's nothing "new" about it. Since it was happening while Brian Weber was busy selling shares but not drinks, it seems to me that kind of PR is no guarantee that this isn't just another stab at pumping up the company so Weber can dump more shares behind his TA, who was mysteriously gagged right before this "big" announcement.

Nothing's changed. Race trucks or Latina pop stars, it's just more of the same.