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fourkids_9pets

03/19/11 5:30 PM

#2361 RE: janice shell #2359

what is fascinating is reading posts
that have never found one stock/co
to be *neutral* about ... ever .. <forget positive>

a decade ago b4 the rise of stk msg boards
the basic MBA speak was if mgmt executes
the stock will follow .. i think it's safe
to say that *algos* from extremely well healed co.s
who can afford to buy each day's outcome and of course
my favorite .. the rise of those unregulated hedgies
who wrote their own rules this past decade .. may have
changed *some* mindsets about *transparency* along the way

MMs' with lousy internal controls and crap for clients
should face the same transparency as the very co.s' stock
they DON'T make a market on .. rumors abound about the
PRIMARY MM on the OTC .. and why *exactly* their stock got
taken to the cleaners in OCT 2009 .. how ironic that GS never
revealed they too had been served with a wells notice by the SEC

until the sec *announced* it ..

how truly bizarre what is tolerated .. since there is zero
by way of consistency across any level .. which would be
just swell if this were 1934 .. or 1954 .. but it's 2011

how many more decades do they need? imo they aren't there to give

==
4kids
all jmo


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SevenTenEleven

03/19/11 5:50 PM

#2362 RE: janice shell #2359

There is alot of money to be made when a stock goes up. There is even more money to be made when a stock goes down if you were selling vapor all the way down to .0001 and cover there. - AlanC

Untrue. Your greatest profit shorting is 100%. Your potential profit pumping and dumping is limitless. - Janice Shell

Greatest profit shorting is 100%? Not when one sells and sells and sells shares that they do not own, have not borrowed, or ever intend on borrowing. That formula has "unlimited" gain potential. One which a percentage cannot be calculated without "error".

When buying comes in to push the PPS up, just "create a market" and sell more and more and more, until the buying pressure collapses along with the PPS again.

Wash, rinse, repeat!
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SevenTenEleven

03/21/11 8:02 PM

#2481 RE: janice shell #2359

Your greatest profit shorting is 100%. Your potential profit pumping and dumping is limitless. - Janice Shell

What is the profit potential naked short selling? Is it actually something that can be calculated?

If you sell something you do not own, borrow, or intend on borrowing, your cost basis is what?

As far as short selling legally, one's margin costs are their cost basis.

So let's say someone borrows shares and shorts sells them. Assume their margin interest is $10 and they turn around and make a $1000 profit. That would be a 10,900% profit.